decided on front loading but

[Schmidty]

How long should my cycle be if i front load? I was going to go twelve but decided im going to front load. And if im going to be running 600mg a week, i shoot 1200 the first week or 600 the irst shot the 300 every shot after that. Im a little confused, i have researched it but i dont fully understand it

[Schmidty]

bump

[jagdpanther]

Frontloading explained-

[Schmidty]

^ I read that but it dont say how much to cut the weeks down.

[Schmidty]

but it does answer my dosage question.

[jagdpanther]

I never thought of front loading as requiring one to shorten their cycle.
I thought the idea was to get your levels up higher so you are there longer.
Now if you happen to want to run a shorter cycle then frontloading with longer esters seems the way to go as well.

[Schmidty]

^ My idea of it is to get ur levels their faster so you can come off sooner and not be shut down as long.

[SMAN12b]

What Ester are you shooting???

If test E or cyp, then just shoot 600 first shot (say Monday morning) then another 600 second shot (Thursday night)

the following week drop to 300 each shot twice a week for 600mgs week

I would still plan on 12 weeks unless you get to the point where you see gains stopping

[aadrenaline]

if your usuing a test e or c i still think you should run the 12 weeks. i front loaded and i felt it strong around week 9 but thats me

[Schmidty]

Test E at 600mg week

[jagdpanther]

It does give you a possible answer to your dosage question you just need to do the math. He laid out the formula. i have seen several different methods for figuring out frontloading not sure anyone is righter then the rest.

Actually when I front load I go a little heavier then marcus suggests in the post - my method is not based on science - I just take double the test the first week. I'm not recomending you try my method but it seems to work for me. Actually its basically the same thing the other guy in the post above mine said. do two shoots of 600 the first week.

[Schmidty]

It does give you a possible answer to your dosage question you just need to do the math. He laid out the formula. i have seen several different methods for figuring out frontloading not sure anyone is righter then the rest.

Actually when I front load a little heavier then marcus suggests in the post - my method is not based on science - I just take double the test the first week. I'm not recomending you try my method but it seems to work for me.

That is waht i planned on doing.

[SMAN12b]

Gee, glad I could be on NO help.......LOLOLOLOL

[jagdpanther]

Gee, glad I could be on NO help.......LOLOLOLOL

Sorry bro but i think its your avatar not your advice. Even hot chicks can look a little creepy with only one leg.

[Schmidty]

so keep it at the 12 weeks

[Schmidty]

[QUOTE=marcus300]
By the end of the first week you will achieve the peak dose as opposed to the 7th wk of a cycle not front loaded, 1 wk or 7 wks for peak blood levels? no argument really, you will have the benefit of the gear kicking straight away,without doubt this is an excellent way to achieve your goals and get the full strength of the gear kicking striaght away, remember the body grows at its best when its fresh which is noramally at the start of a cycle, cut the whole length down of the cycle and front load it, less time shutdown, faster stable blood levels at peak dosage, results striaght from the start, reason why many stay on cycle for many wks is because of when the gear starts to kick fully so why not cut the length down which will cut the time down for shutdown, with front load no need to stay on for so long,


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[Schmidty]

[QUOTE=Schmidty]

[B]cut the whole length down of the cycle and front load it, less time shutdown, faster stable blood levels at peak dosage, results striaght from the start[/B
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I thinkill take it to 8 weeks and if im still gaining ill stay on.

[jagdpanther]

I think that is a good call Schmidty. To be truthful I think either would work well, it is more about why you do it. You wanted a shorter cycle with less shutdown time - there is a motive behind the madness and therefore i think it is a good call. I also think it is smart that you are planning flexibility and will reevaluate at week eight. I've both extended and cut cycles short.

[Jucinator2]

being shut down for 10 weeks as opposed to 12 , dont really see the difference . I think 12 weeks is minimum cycle time.

[SMAN12b]

I would stop it when the gains stop. my cycle was planned for 14 weeks, made it to 10 weeks and decided to end it

[Hellmaskbanned]

Frontloading a first cycle is ridiculous IMO.....

1200 a week? Just an estrogen surplus for ya.

500mgs/week @ the most.

[SMAN12b]

Frontloading a first cycle is ridiculous IMO.....

1200 a week? Just an estrogen surplus for ya.

500mgs/week @ the most.

Damnn did I miss him saying first cycle somewhere or is that on another thread???

Sorry !!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

Damnn did I miss him saying first cycle somewhere or is that on another thread???

Sorry !!!

I just assumed lol.

I hope it's his first cycle, going by all his posts and his unusual antics...

[Schmidty]

so dont front load? why not

[Schmidty]

I dont see anywere on that link that says it will cause a estrogen surplus. Besides im running letro through the cycle and yes its my first cycle

[Dog-Slime]

I frontloaded my first (first REAL cycle did a low dose deca only before that lol) cycle and it worked out fine for me. I would not run the test that high tho... I went with 400 mgs/week and gained 25 pounds in just 8 weeks. I think you would see the results you want with less gear. IMO you could frontload it I just would use less, 1200mgs is a lot of test to take in a week.

[jagdpanther]

schmidty start the letro a week early if you plan on front loading - It takes about a week to get blood levels effective. If you use the AI, estrogen surplus shouldn't be to much of an issue.

[Schmidty]

schmidty start the letro a week early if you plan on front loading - It takes about a week to get blood levels effective. If you use the AI, estrogen surplus shouldn't be to much of an issue.

Will do

[chest6]

Theres not much of a difference with frontloading and not IMO

[Schmidty]

^ I got the extra juice so I dont think it will hurt