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    gotjacked is offline New Member
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    Question third cycle....wat you think

    First off thankx for relying....second here is info about me........have taken simple bread and butter compounds such as (sus 250, anadrol , deca , winstrol , nolvadex ) before.....i prefer this stack with different testosterone almost every time because it gives you huge gains....also can i get feedback on the duration of my cycle....
    age: 21
    height: 5 11in
    weight: 185




    I will be taking the following:
    Bulk: Enanthate 400mgs,20mls
    Deca 400mgs,20mls
    D-bols 10mgs
    Cutting: EQ 400mgs,20mls Winstrol 50mgs

    PCT: HCG 5000iu per unit Aromasin 25mgs Nolvadex 20mgs





    Initial weight:
    Should be eating 4000cals per day
    WKS: 1-4
    -3 d -bols per day
    -1cc of deca per week
    -1cc of test enanthate

    Weight after week four:
    Should be eating 4500-4700cals per day
    WKS: 5-12
    -2cc of test enanthate
    -1and a half cc of deca

    Weight after week 12:
    Should be eating 5000-5500cals per day
    WKS: 13-14
    -2cc of eq
    -1 winstrol tab per day

    WKS: 15-18
    -1cc of eq
    -1 winstrol tab per day

    Weight after week 18:
    Should be eating 5500-6000cals per day
    WK: 19
    -1cc of eq

    WK: 20
    -1cc of eq
    -500iu of hcg per day
    -1 nolvadex pill per day
    -1 aromasin pill per day

    WK: 21-25
    -500iu of hcg per day
    -1 nolvasex pill per day
    -1 aromasin pill per day
    Last edited by gotjacked; 04-11-2007 at 07:56 AM.

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    please re-write this cycle. confusing the hell outta me. Put the mgs per week instead of the cc per week

    week compound dosage
    1-4 dbol 30 mg ED

    7 weeks of eq at 1cc per week won't do much (if anything) Your last shot of test is week 12 but your PCT starts week 20. PCT should start 14 days after last test shot right? You will be going 6 weeks with no test production. I say drop the deca and run the Test for 12 weeks and EQ for 14 weeks PCT starts after last eq shot. OR Just eat more period!!! your 5'-11" and 185 after 2 cycles?????????
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    so at 800mgs per week of eq for two weeks, then 400 for 5 weeks along with winny that is not going to do anything......yes i weight 185 because ive be lacking the motivation to get in it.....for the past two months ive been eating about 4000 calories and working out 5x week. I realize that you start pct 14 days after last test inject, but my cycle is not complete....i wanna use deca or something else for gains...what u recommend and how long

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    revised cycle...compounds in mgs per week

    I will be taking the following:
    Bulk: Enanthate 400mgs,20mls Deca 400mgs,20mls D-bols 10mgs
    Cutting: EQ 400mgs,20mls Winstrol 50mgs
    PCT: HCG 5000iu per unit Aromasin 25mgs Nolvadex 20mgs

    Initial weight:
    Should be eating 4000cals per day
    WKS: 1-4
    -3 d -bols per day
    -400mgs of deca per week
    -400mgs of test enanthate

    Weight after week four:
    Should be eating 4500-4700cals per day
    WKS: 5-12
    -800mgs of test enanthate
    -600mgs of deca

    Weight after week 12:
    Should be eating 5000-5500cals per day
    WKS: 13-14
    -800mgs of eq
    -1 winstrol tab per day

    WKS: 15-18
    -400mgs of eq
    -1 winstrol tab per day

    Weight after week 18:
    Should be eating 5500-6000cals per day
    WK: 19
    -400mgs of eq

    WK: 20
    -400mgs of eq
    -500iu of hcg per day
    -1 nolvadex pill per day
    -1 aromasin pill per day

    WK: 21-25
    -500iu of hcg per day
    -1 nolvasex pill per day
    -1 aromasin pill per day

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    I dont care for your cycle at all. I dont underatand your rational for it either. Its way too long. Split them up into two cycles. You need to inject Enan 2x per week and run it 3 weeks past deca and eq for starters. Also, have you ever ate 5500-6000 clean calories in a day before? Whats your diet look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotjacked
    so at 800mgs per week of eq for two weeks, then 400 for 5 weeks along with winny that is not going to do anything......yes i weight 185 because ive be lacking the motivation to get in it.....for the past two months ive been eating about 4000 calories and working out 5x week. I realize that you start pct 14 days after last test inject, but my cycle is not complete....i wanna use deca or something else for gains...what u recommend and how long
    no bro. Read my post over again. Your cycle calls for 7 weeks of EQ. I suggest run it for 14 weeks. I did not specify a dose but if it were me I would run 600 mgs per week for 14 weeks. You need to first let us know what your goals are. Are you trying to cut? or are you trying to bulk? You can bulk off of EQ and 6000 cal may be easier to obtain with EQ as it increase appatite.
    Recap: I suggest 12 weeks of test 400-500mgs per week and 14 weeks of EQ 600 mgs per week.

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    i think ur gonna put on a lot of fat with 6000 cals at only 185lbs......im 210 and found out my maintenance is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than i ever would have thought....like 2500 is all i need so in theory i can bulk on about 3500 4000 max....

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    johny-too-small what is your cycle suggestion..i would like to know if u dont mined

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    i don tsee how u can gain your potential by only eating less than 3000 cals....yes , everyones matabolizism is different by if your doig juice for christ sake dude you gotta eat eat eat....IMO good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotjacked
    johny-too-small what is your cycle suggestion..i would like to know if u dont mined
    Try this:

    Week 1-4: Dbol @ 30-40 mg/ed
    Week 1-12: Test Enan @ 500 mg/ew
    Week 1-10: Deca @ 400 mg/ew

    or

    Week 1-12: Test Enan @ 500 mg/ew (frontloaded)
    Week 1-11: EQ @ 800 mg/ew (frontloaded)
    Week 9-14: Winny @ 50-75 mg/ed

    And yes you will get fat eating 5k+ ed.

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    thanks for the reply but arent you suposse to run deca for minimum 12 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotjacked
    i don tsee how u can gain your potential by only eating less than 3000 cals....yes , everyones matabolizism is different by if your doig juice for christ sake dude you gotta eat eat eat....IMO good luck

    You need to eat eat eat off gear too!!! Do that and not rely on AAS

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    Deca has a long ester and it'll be in your system for that long.

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    i totally agree Outta Kontrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotjacked
    i don tsee how u can gain your potential by only eating less than 3000 cals....yes , everyones matabolizism is different by if your doig juice for christ sake dude you gotta eat eat eat....IMO good luck
    yes eat but u dont have to eat 3x's what it takes for u to grow.....theres a line between maximum amount of muscle your going to put on and then fat. so if you gain lbm at 3500 cals and u gain the same amount of muscle BUT also fat at 4500 cals wouldnt u rather eat 3500 cals? its common sense here dude. but do waht u want i dont care but id bet ur eating WAY to much....

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