is 14 weeks to long

[bbminded]

i am 6 weeks into my sust 250 and primo cycle. im running 500mg sust and 400 mg primo a week. my originally plan was to run 12 weeks but i got off to a slow start. my first two weeks i only did 250mg of sust and 200 mg of primo. i was waiting on some more gear that never came and had to put in a rush order with someone else. anyways if i extend the same dosage out for 8 more weeks would that be to long. also i was thinking of adding some winny for the last six weeks. any advice

[bbminded]

any help???

[hardgainer1]

14 weeks is not too long. it will be fine, and better imo than 12 weeks. Just make sure you have an aggressive PCT ready

[bbminded]

yea ive got clomid and nolva on hand is the AG guys stuff (pct) pretty good

[Swifto]

I went 14 weeks for my first run. Worked fine. As stated, an aggressive PCT is needed. Some HCG now and again may not go a miss too. 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly.

[bbminded]

what about the idea of adding winny for the last 6-8 weeks good or bad idea???

[Swifto]

what about the idea of adding winny for the last 6-8 weeks good or bad idea???

First cycle?

[bbminded]

no not my first cycle ive cycled on and off for the past 6 years ive used winny before and liked the results thought maybe it will add a little vascularity

[BG]

what about the idea of adding winny for the last 6-8 weeks good or bad idea???

Try proviron instead of winny imo.

[BG]

125-250ius 2-3 times weekly.

I like to add it to my GH , making it ed injects. HCG seems to given me ance, mimicking unstable blood levels.

[Swifto]

I like to add it to my GH , making it ed injects. HCG seems to given me ance, mimicking unstable blood levels.

Thats intresting. Or the spike in estrogen levels it causes. Is that what you meant? Or spike in testosterone during PCT? Your on HRT though so I guess you mean estrogen.

Both spikes could elevate the chances of acne though. Thats if estrogen is a culprit.

[jagdpanther]

Thats intresting. Or the spike in estrogen levels it causes. Is that what you meant? Or spike in testosterone during PCT? Your on HRT though so I guess you mean estrogen.

Both spikes could elevate the chances of acne though. Thats if estrogen is a culprit.

I get acne from the HCG when I use it during cycle. This cycle I've decided to use HCG sparringly and my acne is definaelty better then usual.
My only question is how does hcg spike estrogen? I mean if men create estrogen via aromatase, which requires the presense of both testosterone and aromatse, How would HCG spike estrogen while on letro as letro competitevly inhibits aromatization. Does HCG some how induce estrogen via another pathway?

[Swifto]

I get acne from the HCG when I use it during cycle. This cycle I've decided to use HCG sparringly and my acne is definaelty better then usual.
My only question is how does hcg spike estrogen? I mean if men create estrogen via aromatase, which requires the presense of both testosterone and aromatse, How would HCG spike estrogen while on letro as letro competitevly inhibits aromatization. Does HCG some how induce estrogen via another pathway?

I think so, yes. Though I'm not certain. It does increase estrogen fairly dramatically. This is why a SERM or AI is needed when using HCG. I've sen gyno reportdly from HCG too.

Unless its purely from the spike of testosterone that it causes, via aromotase as you suggested.

I'm going to look into this.

[Swifto]

HCG increases aromotase expression. This is how estrogen is elevated when using it. Use an AI and you'll help avoid the sides estrogen brings. No other pathway.