Crossing back over to the darkside.

[GrimmReaper]

Well, after being out of the game well over a year I am going back over.
Here is what I am planning here in a couple weeks:

wk 1-16 sust/750mg per week
wk 1-8 fina/75mg ED
wk 9-16 masteron/75mg ed
wk 1-20+ nolvadex/20mg eod
wk 18-21 clomid/50mg ed
wk 18-20 hcg 500iu eod

I am shooting for a lean bulker with some fat loss. I was thinking of adding some t-bol in there as well but still am not quite sure. any feedback would be great-thanks.

[cookiemonstR]

Well, after being out of the game well over a year I am going back over.
Here is what I am planning here in a couple weeks:

wk 1-16 sust/750mg per week
wk 1-8 fina/75mg ED
wk 9-16 masteron/75mg ed
wk 1-20+ nolvadex/20mg eod
wk 18-21 clomid/50mg ed
wk 18-20 hcg 500iu eod

I am shooting for a lean bulker with some fat loss. I was thinking of adding some t-bol in there as well but still am not quite sure. any feedback would be great-thanks.

you seem to have your shit together, i personally would only go with nolva, clomid baiscally does the same thing, and maybe hike up the dosage as soon as your test levels from the gear drop

[GrimmReaper]

you seem to have your shit together, i personally would only go with nolva, clomid baiscally does the same thing, and maybe hike up the dosage as soon as your test levels from the gear drop

thanks, where should i add t-bol in my mix?????????

[kfrost06]

I think the nolva and masteron is great for preventing any gyno from the test but are you worried about the fina and nolva together? Some have no problems with it, me fina or deca are always going to give me gyno problems. I can't really comment on the rest because it's more than I've done, I keep test at around 300-500mg/wk. GL

[GrimmReaper]

thanks, i will be taking 200mg of b6 ED to prevent any progest gyno from the fina. bump...anyone else? what abt the t-bol?

[kfrost06]

nobodies answering your t-bol question. I personally haven't done t-bol and don't like to answer about things I have no experience with. I use dbol to kick start and would use that for the first 4 weeks, it will be a few weeks before you feel the sus kick in.

[jagdpanther]

Luke .. feel the POWER of the dark side - sorry couldn't resist

I agree with the previous poster on dropping the clomid, but also for emmotional reasons - clomid IMO sucks.
You've done this before so you know how gyno prone you are, personaly I prefer to run AIs with my test.
I also prefer single ester AAS to premixed blends. I'd use a
Test E or C instead of sust250. I think the blood levels are more conistent with a single ester if you only inject a couple of times a week.
I usually start or end my cycle with an oral like TBOL. In this case because you are dropping the tren on week 8 I would start the TBOL after week eight.
I think going from tren to masteron, is going strong to weaker. The TBOL might balance that out a bit. I would run it at 50mg ED at the least. I've never run it at any different amount to be honest but i usually run it with var @ 60-100mg ED.

alot of people are also running an AI during PCT in addition to nolvadex. the thinking being that by keeping their estrogen low - the estrogen negative feedback loop on test production will be minimized. there have actually been studies showing AI alone will significanlty increase test levels in men. Not sure how long the effect lasts though.
anyway I've always run an AI during PCT. Aromasin seems to be the hot ticket these days for that. Letro is not recomended becasue it doesn't play as well with nolvadex.

My 2 cents anyway, but what you have looks like it would work for sure.

[jagdpanther]

Oh by the way I'm taking B6 and cabergoline right now with my test/tren cycle. I recomend the cabergoline.

[GrimmReaper]

bump