which one of those two is better to stack with deca? thanks
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which one of those two is better to stack with deca? thanks
Neither...have both on hand to be safe, but you need to stack test with your deca. What are your stats?
You do not want to take nolva with deca.
well i'm sorta acne prone so i'd rather keep the estrogen level low while on the cycle... just finished my accutane course and i'm pretty as never - don't really want go back to the skin horror again.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR
i'm not giving my stats again, i've done that twice and twice got lynched ;)
There's probably a reason for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommik
But anywho... Letro would most likely be your best bet. Nolva is typically useless for gyno control, IMO.
Keep the Letro low, and adjust accordingly with sides.
would 0.25 ml of letro every 2 days be enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by fLgAtOr
you may wish to consider adding some cabergoline in addition to the letro. Cabergoline combats prolactin. I'm using it for the first time on my test/tren/dht cycle and think it is a big help.
I think that's a great starting point. If you need to increase, then go to .25 ED. I used .6 EOD, and I'm super prone...Worked great.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommik
thanks!, i'll run letro 0.25 on alternate days then.
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Originally Posted by tommik
would that dosage of letro suffice for a cycle of decca and cyp @600mg/wk? with dbol for the first 4 weeks? or would i need something else to take daily?
:_hijack::_hijack: I think .25 mr ED should be just fine. I would not go any higher than you have to with Letro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius Leftfoot
thanx bro...and sorry for hijacking the thread.
i've done two cycles of test-e & dbol, had itchy nips and took novla and it went away. i also used it for pct w/ clomid and have no gyno. might not work for you, but worked for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by fLgAtOr
I understand this. But it's not the norm...Especially when people start using 19-nors like tren and deca.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrelaraH
In addition, it doesn't do anything for bloat, or other systemic estrogen related side effects. It can even aggravate gyno in the presence of progesterone.
There is a reason why this is a "first generation" drug...Then arimidex, the Letro, and now new SERMs that are even more effective.
Letro/Cabergoline with either Raloxifene or Tormefine and you can kiss goodbye to any gyno!
hey bro...at what doses would you use each of em, and for how long?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifto
Have you used these yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifto
No. But there both SERM's and do not interfer with the PgR, like Nolva has been seen/documented to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by fLgAtOr
Ultimate gyno prevention IMHO.
I think it would be better to ask someone thats used them all and had success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius Leftfoot