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04-13-2007, 11:21 PM #1Associate Member
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Why do some people have sides and other do not?
I do not understand it, I been on 400 mg of Test E and 300 mg Deca for 6 weeks and no side what so ever. Crazy increase in size and streight, and no mood swings at all. But why do some people that use half of what I do think they have gyro all of a sudden? Do you think it on their mind because they are scared of the sides and they think the smallest inch is gyro?
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04-13-2007, 11:31 PM #2New Member
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There's a symple answer, its everyone's body reacts different to anything, some people's bodys can handle things better then others, its almost luck of the draw.
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04-13-2007, 11:34 PM #3
Genetics!
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04-13-2007, 11:44 PM #4
It's gyno not gyro and sides come from abuse, not use.
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04-14-2007, 03:24 AM #5
Funny thing is i never get any sides (almost) from almost anything. Numb hands on GH? Never had it (GH was 100% legit worked wonders always), not even at 20 iu/day. Tren cough? Had it maybe 1 or 2 times in about an year of use. night sweats? Never. Gyno? not even on 3 g of test/week. Aching joints on winny? Never had it. Hell, im not even getting the craps everyone is scared of on PGF-2a. I might get some but its really mild, and mostly normal. Crazy hypo on insulin ? Not even at 50 iu/single dose did i have anything that was even remotely threatening.
I must be resistant to drugs, cause ive never ever thrown up from alcohol either, my body just seems to absorb and utilize everything .
Only thing that might be considered as an annoying side for me, is insomnia on tren. But im running extremely heavy doses atm, and it only shows at such high doses (200 mg/ed). At 75 mg/ed i dont get anything except some extra aggression (and of course the good effects ).
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04-14-2007, 07:45 AM #6
Each and every side is the result of complex interactions. lets just look at some of the variables for one side - gyno since that is what you mention.
1)Aromatse the enzyme that converts Test to estrogen is more abundant in fat cells. therefore the fatter you are the more likey you are to get gyno on cycle(this does not mean you will, its just 1 one factor that increases the probability)
2) as men age more of their test is converted to estrogen - it would seem that as age increases the probablity of developing gyno on cycle increases.
3) for full blown gyno you actually need not just estrogen but progestorone and igf. The combination of AAS you use will defianlty influence the probability of developing gyno. the gains and the sides both add synergistically ***ending on the combination you use. If your running hgh of igf with your AAS you may be increasing your risk of gyno. This is also true if you run something like nandrolone which can stimulate the progesterone receptors.
4) the balance between androgenic and female hormones plays a part. If your androgens are much higher you should not develop gyno. adding a dht derivative to your cycle decreases the risk of gyno.
5) Foods you eat have an impact. Soy protien is supposed to increase estrogen for example. Salts and simple sugars increase water retention(this is more for bloat then gyno).
these are just a few factors off the top of my head but you can see how complicated it gets even when we are talking about generalities not specific people. Obviously you can take counter measures such as including an AI on cycle and/or increase your androgens which reduces the probability.Last edited by jagdpanther; 04-14-2007 at 07:57 AM.
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04-14-2007, 07:52 AM #7Originally Posted by lpicken
A person can have a side effect from any drug. even Dr prescribed.
what is your definition of abuse?
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04-14-2007, 08:56 AM #8
Panther makes some good points and everyone should be prepared for sides before taking AS, but the real truth is that everyone is different and some people are just prone to these things. You may react differently on one steroid to another. I know people who get sides just by looking at drugs. Myself, I'm very lucky and am not prone to sides, even at the age of 45. I do always have PCT on hand just in case. I never had allergies when I was a kid but as I grew older I started getting them. There's no reason my sides can't change as well as I get older, that's why I'm always prepared.
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04-14-2007, 09:12 AM #9
Yes to all! Plan for the worst and you'll be ready to handle any side. This is especially true when starting out as a beginner or when switching compounds and doseages. It takes just one time of having sensitive nipples with no meds to make you loose your mind. Always approach things with a safety net. Don't start without all needed drugs, not just gear. How many times have we heard: "its on order and I already started....."! or "damn, I hope I get it soon".
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04-14-2007, 09:58 AM #10Originally Posted by TheSmay
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04-14-2007, 10:55 AM #11
Already been said.
Genetics.
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04-14-2007, 11:21 AM #12New Member
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Last edited by Tamiflu; 04-15-2007 at 08:21 AM.
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04-14-2007, 11:45 AM #13
some people have more estrogen receptor sites in their mamories than other
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02-18-2008, 11:56 PM #14Junior Member
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Genetics as stated fwiend
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