MY Complete Ultimate Begginers Cycle

**The Natural** · 08-09-2002, 04:26 PM

OK, so here it goes!

Dianabol 1-4wk 35mg/day
Sustanon 1-10wk 500mg/wk
Deca 1-10wk 400mg/wk
Proviron 1-10wk 50mg/day

Clomid 13.wk 300mg/1.day
+10days 100mg/day
+10days 50mg/wk

Clenbuterol 1-2wk/on 5-6wk/on 9-10wk/on 13-14wk/on

Nolvadex when needed: 10-30mg/day

Also take celltech & Nitrotech!(with creatine, insulin and other stuff!)
thru the whole 14 weeks!

OK! Waddaya say???

Any suggestions... BTW is the Nolva-dose right?

Thanks!

**inertia** · 08-09-2002, 04:32 PM

looks good bro is this your first cycle? what sre your stats?

**ironfist** · 08-09-2002, 04:32 PM

Dump the slin bro...You don't need it on your first cycle and you can literally kill yourself if you are not sure what you are doing...

**Rickson** · 08-09-2002, 04:43 PM

Yeah no need to play with slin on a first cycle.

**Billy Boy** · 08-09-2002, 04:48 PM

Drop the slin and lose the creatine you,ll be holding enough water anyway use the creatine after the cycle

**tt333** · 08-09-2002, 05:21 PM

same as the rest, drop the slin.

**Biznatch** · 08-09-2002, 06:09 PM

Guess your gonna have to change your screen name....

**The Natural** · 08-10-2002, 04:09 AM

No no no....
You got me all wrong...

The Insulin is a part of celltech, its not THAT much!

celltech is an weightgain supplement made by muscletech, havent you heard about it?

inertia. I am 190cm tall and weigh about 90kg... lots of fat though!

Therefore this cycle to gain some weight!

I'll post before/after pics when I finish in april/may, I am gonna start in feb!

BTW! Is the dosages right for the gear?

Thanx for your advice!

**PaPaPumP** · 08-10-2002, 04:54 AM

uh oh...we got a live one. cell-tech doesn't have insulin per say. it has enough sugar to fill a f350 super duty truck bed, jacked 12" rollin on 42X15.50 boggers.

That means that all it is kool aid mix with creatine, and such a hint of ALA it shouldn't even be included on the ingredients list. Screw creatine, just makes you bloated,you'll be bloated enough with the test and deca .
Cycle looks spot on bro! You sure like to plan ahead...eh?

**The Natural** · 08-10-2002, 06:27 AM

heh heh!
yes, I dont wanna take any chances!
I want to drill thru the same questions just to make SURE!

Yeah.... call me a chicken shit, in a matter of fact... I am! LOL! When it comes to AS!

Well Now I am almost 100% sure... so I wont change it any more!

Hey, papapump!
What about Met-RX or Nutriplex? I've heard a lots of good things about them..... man I dont wanna lose weight after the cycle... I will do ANYTHING tostop that from happening!

Thanx!

**tanguy** · 08-10-2002, 10:26 AM

i dont think he means he is doing slin. i think he means whats in the celltech. the insulin inhibitor or some shit celltech is supposed to do. he would of listed the amount of slin if he was doing iu's of slin. i think this is what he meant. maybe not though

**ironfist** · 08-10-2002, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by PaPaPumP
uh oh...we got a live one. cell-tech doesn't have insulin per say. it has enough sugar to fill a f350 super duty truck bed, jacked 12" rollin on 42X15.50 boggers.

That means that all it is kool aid mix with creatine, and such a hint of ALA it shouldn't even be included on the ingredients list. Screw creatine, just makes you bloated,you'll be bloated enough with the test and deca .
Cycle looks spot on bro! You sure like to plan ahead...eh?

Don't be knocking my truck or cell tech if ya know what's good for ya...

**PaPaPumP** · 08-10-2002, 12:39 PM

How's that for for your tree fitty?

**The Natural** · 08-11-2002, 02:59 PM

BTW! Can anyone, PLEASE!!!! Tell me approx. how much weight I will gain by that cycle... avarage. Just curious.

I wanna gain no more that 15kg, I dont wanna end up looking like a gorilla!

OK? please answer.... thanx!

**Gonna Be HUGE** · 08-11-2002, 04:38 PM

BTW, how old are you? Just wondering as you didn't include your age with your stats...

**The Natural** · 08-12-2002, 02:38 AM

I'll be 21 and 1/2 when I start me cycle.

So.... How much gain???

**Pete235** · 08-12-2002, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by The Natural
So.... How much gain???

It depends on diet, training and genetics. Your question is very hard to answer because it can vary greatly from one person to the next.

**The Natural** · 08-12-2002, 08:19 AM

Hey, pete!

Remember me? The Don, now gone Natural!

Lets say I take the right dose protein carb etc. and train 4 tiomes a week. How much would an average person gain? Even take a guess... Its not more than 15kg, huh?

Thanx!

**NoLimits** · 08-12-2002, 09:15 AM

I would drop the Proviron during the cycle. No need for it. You could use it at the end of your cycle with your clomid, but a waist of money during. My opinion... Also, stay away from the Celltech, and Nitrotech. Why spend that kind of money, get yourself a decent protein shake or meal replacement drink!

**The Natural** · 08-12-2002, 12:29 PM

What!? Cut the proviron ?

Doesnt it prevent gyno?
It sais so on the AS profiles here... hmmm!

What do you other guys say?
Should I cut it?

And what about my weight gain question... Can nobody answer it?

**The Natural** · 08-13-2002, 05:26 AM

Heyyyyyyy....

no one wants to 'elp?

**jake the snake** · 08-13-2002, 10:57 AM

no dont cut the prov, and read Anabolics 2002, it says that it's very good with certain cycles.

**NoLimits** · 08-13-2002, 11:12 AM

Yes Proviron is good for certain cycles. I am including it at the end, in an upcoming cycle that is to start in Sept. I am just saying, that this is your first cycle, keep it simple. You start off by throwing a bunch of different AS's in there and you don't know what your body is responding too. All steroids have their place, but you wouldn't take all of them together... Just start slow.

As far as your weight gain question... that is a hard one to answer. Like Pete said, it depends on your nutritional aspect of your cycle, your workouts, and required rest. Also, how your body responds to the gear you put in your body.