Desperate..balls gone..help

[pete050877]

im really hoping someone can take the time to hear my story. i'll try to make it as short as possible...ive taken a few cycles in the past(deca and sust.) but didnt know that i needed to take clomid or whatever afterwards and now i no longer feel like a man(shrunken testicles, extremely loew test levels, no sex drive..energy..***ressed..etc..) started about 3-4 years ago, endo gave me test patches, dont know why he didnt suggest clomid or something to correct problem. anyway, i have 2 kits of hgh(7-6mg vials...getting more) but dont think i should do em until i at least try to correct problem first...i just bought 20-20mg nolvadex and 2 1500iu amps of hcg (ordered more but order was screwed up). ive been tearing this forum apart trying to figure out the best way to get my test flowing again but so much info and too many questions....confused. can anyone PLEASE advise me....how much more nolva, hcg?? dosing??? any ideas???? im so lost

[shrpskn]

I would do 1000iu's if HCG /e3d for 2 weeks...at the same time start running nolva at 40mg/ed...I would also jump on some Proviron @ 50mg/ed.

After the two weeks of HCG, nolva, and proviron...stay with the nolva at that dose for an additional 4 weeks as well as the proviron...then drop the nolva to 20mg/ed and proviron to 25mg/ed...run that out an additional 2 weeks or so...you should be feeling much better by then and hopefully the boys have come back around for you by then as well.

Good luck,

[taiboxa]

run hcg /nolva/aromasin
and GO TALK to an endocrinologist...
sounds to me like u might of become a textbook example of what not to do.

[spywizard]

yep.. there ya go...

[TheSentinal]

Bro - sorry to hear about your boys. We will need some more info. If you have been around you know: age, cycles and doseage, some more detail please.

[shrpskn]

GO TALK to an endocrinologist...
sounds to me like u might of become a textbook example of what not to do.

I agree...

[Benches505]

Even some trib at 1,000 mg/day will bring them back nicely.

[Lucius Leftfoot]

hey bro...check out the pct forum. the first thread at the top has a good plan for what your going thru. its a post by pinnacle about anthony roberts pct plan. i found it very useful.

[SVTMuscle*]

Even some trib at 1,000 mg/day will bring them back nicely.

For something as severe as he has, I don't think trib would do the magic

[shrpskn]

For something as severe as he has, I don't think trib would do the magic

I agree...he is definitely beyond the point that any OTC remedy is going to help him....

After he recovers, it wouldn't hurt, but right now he seriously needs an aggressive plan of action.

[Dobie-BOY]

Yep , I know the feeling man. When I just startd juicin I always did it all wrong. BOY DOES IT SUCK. Of course this doesnt happen now because now I know it all......... like so many other people on this board do. I think if you hang around long enough and make enough posts you will know it all too!! I dont think you are to far gone though. Isnt it amazing how much doctors, especially an endo, DOESNT know about this stuff?

[pete050877]

o.k....to shrpskn and taiboxa.....thanks so much for being the people you are to take time and help idiots like me. from your advice it sounds like i kind of need to jump-start my system and then pray.....makes sense. lucius...thanks for directing me to the pct forum, it really made me understand my problem so much better. um...as for the additional info....im 36, ive done 2-8 week cycles of deca and sust(first one about 12 years ago...didnt notice any problems then...second one about 5 years ago, started noticing shrinkage then about once or twice a week and slowly progressed) then did deca about 3 years ago and problems worsened. cant remember dosages but do remember being told that cycles werent major. then went to endo, gave me test patches..about a year...i stopped when learning that patches wouldnt solve problem. life hasnt been the same since...main problems now are major test. shrinkage, memory loss, ***ression, fatigue, low self-esteem, confidence, sex drive, and infertile..just to mention a few....its killing me....i DONT want any pity or anything but i can honestly say that im losing my will to continue living like this. i dont know what additional info would help,,please advise. as for now, i plan to take the advice given but am having problems with the hcg .....im so sorry, its just so hard for me to concentrate..to think clearly....i dont know how much more i need and the whole mixing thing confuses the sh-t out of me...i know i need a sterile vial, slin pins, 3cc syringe, bac water(came with 2 ml...how much more should i get) .............im sorry, i know its been posted before but i just dont understand,,,cant figure it out....im hoping it could be explained to me in more detail and more simple. thank you all again fo giving me some hope...

[Kale]

The advice shrpskn has given you is spot on to try and fix your problem. Dont lose heart dude this can be fixed even if it means you go on Testosterone Replacement Therapy for the rest of your life, which I am on and is no big deal except that at 52 I have the body of a 30 year old but I am dealing with that . Go get a blood test first and foremost before you start doing anything. This will give you a baseline to work from. Get your Free and Total Testosterone levels checked and your Estradiol (Estrogen) levels as well. Let us know what those levels are when you get the results. Keep your chin up. The HCG will get your balls back to size in about two weeks the rest of the stuff we will see !!!

[Lexed]

wow dude that sucks " balls"

[Lexed]

how many cycles did you do without pct?

[Sharky72]

Champ I'm 35 and have had the same issues, the only thing that worked for me was HGH. I'm back to feelin good and getting wood lol. Shooting loads like a teen again Give it a shot . Also I think the Hcg and HGH is a nice combo for what your going through. Good luck