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    got some Q's b4 first test cycle

    hey, i just got some Q's id like to get answered before i start my first test e cycle:

    1. Where do you get your syringes? im guessing many people get them at AR-R , but i wanted to check to see whats the cheapest place to get them, while still getting quality sterile syringes. would that be something you could get at walmart? ha ha

    2. is there some sort of guideline/walk through for administering injectables? i didnt see anything about administration on the site, maybe i missed it, i dunno.

    3. supposing i were to develop gyno during my cycle, should i immediately discontinue the cycle and start PCT with my Nolva? or should i just start the Nolva and finish the cycle? or what?

    4. I currently have the suppliments B-150, flaxseed oil, fish oil, multi-vit, and cycle support from Bodybuilding.com to run during my cycle, would you add/subtract anything?

    5. I just read something today about test potentially causing irriversable damage to sperm production. is this true? is it a serious issue? common issue? any way to avoid it?

    6. Test E PCT starts about 3 weeks after last administration, am i correct? and PCT should run about the length of the cycle (in my case 10 weeks)?

    7. Is there somewhere i could find a test e PCT designed by a pro so i can compare it to mine?

    before you ask, i did search for these things. i may have just overlooked a thing or too, forgive me if im asking repetitive Q's. thank you in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Ryan
    hey, i just got some Q's id like to get answered before i start my first test e cycle:

    1. Where do you get your syringes? im guessing many people get them at AR-R , but i wanted to check to see whats the cheapest place to get them, while still getting quality sterile syringes. would that be something you could get at walmart? ha ha

    2. is there some sort of guideline/walk through for administering injectables? i didnt see anything about administration on the site, maybe i missed it, i dunno.

    3. supposing i were to develop gyno during my cycle, should i immediately discontinue the cycle and start PCT with my Nolva? or should i just start the Nolva and finish the cycle? or what?

    4. I currently have the suppliments B-150, flaxseed oil, fish oil, multi-vit, and cycle support from Bodybuilding.com to run during my cycle, would you add/subtract anything?

    5. I just read something today about test potentially causing irriversable damage to sperm production. is this true? is it a serious issue? common issue? any way to avoid it?

    6. Test E PCT starts about 3 weeks after last administration, am i correct? and PCT should run about the length of the cycle (in my case 10 weeks)?

    7. Is there somewhere i could find a test e PCT designed by a pro so i can compare it to mine?

    before you ask, i did search for these things. i may have just overlooked a thing or too, forgive me if im asking repetitive Q's. thank you in advance
    lets take this one question at a time.

    1.) Syrings are very cheap bro, were talking a couple dollars for a whole bag full. Order from AR with confidence, no worries there.

    2.) http://www.steroid.com/inject.php

    3.) You can prohibit gyno related issues by running an AI such as Letro dosed at .25-.5mgs/ed for the entirety of the cycle. Nolva isnt ideal for proventing gyno.

    4.) Up to you bro, but IMO keep taking your supplements even when on cycle.

    5.) If your planning a 12 week cycle, you should be fine. However if your planning on using gear year round, non-stop than you might run into problems. However in your case, you should be fine.

    6.) Test E PCT start time is 2 weeks after last administration, and PCT time differs from bro to bro, just ***ends on how fast/slow one tends to recover. However a normal PCT will last 4-6 weeks.

    7.) Pros will never put their cycles or PCT online for others to view. However here is my recommendation for a great PCT protocol
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

    To me it doesn't look like you have really educated yourself enough, since the answers to your questions can be found with a little research bro.

    Your PCT protocol concerns me and i would advise you really read up on proper PCT protocols before your start your cycle. You just have nolva for PCT, not good bro.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Rock solid advice from GHO5T! You do need to do some research as suggested. I always add some milk thistle to my cycle's even when chemicals are not particularly hepatotoxic . . . it can't hurt, right! Also PCT time is normally 4-6 weeks as stated, the time on = time off is normally what is suggested for time between cycles, just my 2 cents.
    GOOD LUCK, STAY MOTIVATED,& GrOW HUGE

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    lets take this one question at a time.

    1.) Syrings are very cheap bro, were talking a couple dollars for a whole bag full. Order from AR with confidence, no worries there.

    2.) http://www.steroid.com/inject.php

    3.) You can prohibit gyno related issues by running an AI such as Letro dosed at .25-.5mgs/ed for the entirety of the cycle. Nolva isnt ideal for proventing gyno.

    4.) Up to you bro, but IMO keep taking your supplements even when on cycle.

    5.) If your planning a 12 week cycle, you should be fine. However if your planning on using gear year round, non-stop than you might run into problems. However in your case, you should be fine.

    6.) Test E PCT start time is 2 weeks after last administration, and PCT time differs from bro to bro, just ***ends on how fast/slow one tends to recover. However a normal PCT will last 4-6 weeks.

    7.) Pros will never put their cycles or PCT online for others to view. However here is my recommendation for a great PCT protocol
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

    To me it doesn't look like you have really educated yourself enough, since the answers to your questions can be found with a little research bro.

    Your PCT protocol concerns me and i would advise you really read up on proper PCT protocols before your start your cycle. You just have nolva for PCT, not good bro.

    ~GHO5T~
    thank you very much for your help. are you saying either letro or nolva can be used during cycle incase of gyno, or just use letro? i actually found the injection info before i read this. i knew i saw it somewhere, but i just couldnt find it today for some reason. and the PCT...ive seen soooo many different PCT from sooo many different people, so reading and reading and reading about test PCT just confused me. i wanted to make sure i was getting the PCT correct before i go starting my cycle. i already had one planned (including Nolva, DHEA, 6-oxo, Tribulus, and suppliments), just didnt want to be an idiot and not be 100% sure first. But thank you again for helping me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpumpindoc
    Rock solid advice from GHO5T! You do need to do some research as suggested. I always add some milk thistle to my cycle's even when chemicals are not particularly hepatotoxic . . . it can't hurt, right! Also PCT time is normally 4-6 weeks as stated, the time on = time off is normally what is suggested for time between cycles, just my 2 cents.
    GOOD LUCK, STAY MOTIVATED,& GrOW HUGE
    yeah my cycle support has a ton of milk thistle in it and when you say time on = time off between cycles, does that include PCT? like 10wk on + 6wk PCT + 10wk off...or just 10wk on +10wk off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Ryan
    thank you very much for your help. are you saying either letro or nolva can be used during cycle incase of gyno, or just use letro? i actually found the injection info before i read this. i knew i saw it somewhere, but i just couldnt find it today for some reason. and the PCT...ive seen soooo many different PCT from sooo many different people, so reading and reading and reading about test PCT just confused me. i wanted to make sure i was getting the PCT correct before i go starting my cycle. i already had one planned (including Nolva, DHEA, 6-oxo, Tribulus, and suppliments), just didnt want to be an idiot and not be 100% sure first. But thank you again for helping me
    You can use either Nolva or Letro, however Letro is the stronger of the two, in the case of one not wanting to get gyno during cycle. Letro is highly recommended, the compound also helps with keeping bloat and water retention to a minimum.

    PCT can be a bit confusing, however the link i provided to my answer to question 7, which is anthony roberts PCT protocol. I myself will be running it, and ive heard great reviews from a lot of close bros saying it has worked quite well.

    Time on+PCT = Time Off

    Best of luck to you bro.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Time on + time off is up to the user. I personally like to give my body a little longer break so I include PCT time as time on, but I know many others that prefer to just go by time on AAS. It is up to you though, just make sure you are physically/mentally ready before you start up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    You can use either Nolva or Letro, however Letro is the stronger of the two, in the case of one not wanting to get gyno during cycle. Letro is highly recommended, the compound also helps with keeping bloat and water retention to a minimum.

    PCT can be a bit confusing, however the link i provided to my answer to question 7, which is anthony roberts PCT protocol. I myself will be running it, and ive heard great reviews from a lot of close bros saying it has worked quite well.

    Time on+PCT = Time Off

    Best of luck to you bro.

    ~GHO5T~
    the Letro at AR-R is about the same price as the Nolva i got, thats good to see. Should i replace the Nolva in PCT with letro and just stick with letro the whole way, or you think the letro for during and Nolva for PCT is sufficient? also, i have 6-oxo, thats an AI correct? at least thats what ive been told. so is it possible to substitute 6-oxo for the Aromasin in the suggested PCT from the link you gave me? at least for this cycle, considering i already bought the 6-oxo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpumpindoc
    Time on + time off is up to the user. I personally like to give my body a little longer break so I include PCT time as time on, but I know many others that prefer to just go by time on AAS. It is up to you though, just make sure you are physically/mentally ready before you start up again.
    yeah i kinda feel the way you do. i dont want to be pushing it when it comes to my body. id rather take it a little slower than **** up my body for life

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    Excellent advice given here by GHO5T....Well done.

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