What's better for the summer HGH VS a cutting cycle?

**OPSTER** · 04-19-2007, 05:16 PM

So, for my next cycle, I'd like to lean out, for summer. Now for someone who is fairly muscular and has an alright body fat percentage ( I've always put more concern on weight gain though), my sources give me two options;
1) I can go with HGH, put on muscle and lean out
2) I can go with a stack of Tren , Winny, And some type of test.
From what I've researched, I'd lean out using both...
My main concern is maintaining as much muscle as possible while on a calorie restricted diet, as I shed fat.

**OPSTER** · 04-19-2007, 06:47 PM

Well, nobody is going to chime in, I guess I'll go with the cheaper option.

**king6** · 04-19-2007, 07:34 PM

I wouldn't mess with HGH, 6 months is the standard run time for it I think. For a cutting cycle, I would stick with prop and primo, and maybe some var. Or you could run Eq instead of primo.

**SMAN12b** · 04-19-2007, 07:44 PM

you wont' see much from HGH unless you run it long term

DIET is key in cutting, AAS won't do that for you , but it will aid if your diet is right on!!
Tell us your stats, before we can advise on a cycle for you please

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AGE,HEIGHT,WEIGHT, BF%, DIET, TRAINING, PREVIOUS CYCLES, GOALS, and PCT KNOWLEDGE

**OPSTER** · 04-19-2007, 08:05 PM

I got no idea what my body fat % is... But before this cycle I had a 44inch chest and a 29 inch waist so it can't be too high. Although, I did put on a little fat lately.

I'm 5'8" and 180 pounds, working out for a couple years...
Deca , Omnadren , is my current cycle, I'm 4 weeks in now I beleive... and am not gettin the type of results I want for summer. I was thinking of calling that cycle off, PCT if needed, and then jumping into a better cycle for summer.

Obviously HGH isn't what I want, so what is?
Oh and diet, yes, I can keep that under strict control. I have no problem dropping pounds for the summer, I do it every year, it's just I lose more muscle in the process then I'd perfer.

**DHew** · 04-19-2007, 09:12 PM

I would say nay on the tren ... Esp for your second cycle. Try a prop and anavar cycle out. Research the dosages cause im not fimiliar with them off the top of my head.

**DHew** · 04-19-2007, 09:13 PM

or prop and winny ...

**brodyhagens** · 04-19-2007, 10:43 PM

I'd run Prop and Tren ... HGH is too expensive in my opinion, youll see great results with some tren and prop bro.. plus running gh for 6 months? **** that I'm all set

**OPSTER** · 04-20-2007, 10:36 AM

Why would tren be bad for a 2nd cycle? And what about Winny? I guess it's Prop, and either Anavar or Tren...

**SMAN12b** · 04-20-2007, 10:46 AM

Tren is a VERY harsh compound that can cause some of the worst side effects of any of the compounds used.

It would be better if you went with less harsh compounds and see how your body handles those before jumping into Tren.

You can make a nice cutter with Test and winny for a second cycle

Cutting d-epends mostly on Diet anyway,not compounds, but winny will harden you up and dry you out if you get your BF% down enough

**spywizard** · 04-20-2007, 10:53 AM

do both.. and continue the GH through the cycle and pct until you have run it 6 months..

you will really like the results.. GH alone will not do the magic you are probably looking for..

**gixxerboy1** · 04-20-2007, 11:25 AM

I can see fat loss from GH in a month

**Snrf** · 04-20-2007, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

I can see fat loss from GH in a month

really? what kinda dose?

**gixxerboy1** · 04-20-2007, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

really? what kinda dose?

I'm running 4iu my friend is doing 5 and has noticed a big difference and he is on week 5

**OPSTER** · 04-20-2007, 07:05 PM

Well I went ahead and orderd Tren , Winny and Test (prop), should be here Monday. That doesn't mean I have to use them all... as you guys have kinda scared me away from the Tren.
Now my question is what do I do with my Deca / Omnadren cycle? Do I stop that cycle cold? Should I PCT at all after four weeks? One of the guys at my gym actually recommends I keep on with the deca ....

**SMAN12b** · 04-20-2007, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by OPSTER

Well I went ahead and orderd Tren , Winny and Test (prop), should be here Monday. That doesn't mean I have to use them all... as you guys have kinda scared me away from the Tren.
Now my question is what do I do with my Deca/ Omnadren cycle? Do I stop that cycle cold? Should I PCT at all after four weeks? One of the guys at my gym actually recommends I keep on with the deca ....

Did you by chance at least order Tren A ? At least if you decide to use that and have bad sides, and need to stop it, it will be out of you in days as opposed to Tren E which will be in you for weeks

Hope it all goes well for you!!