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Thread: why aspirate ?????????????
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04-23-2007, 05:30 PM #1
why aspirate ?????????????
dont start flaming me i do aspirate and i was telling a dr friend of mine what all i was taking and how and where i was doing it and i said the word aspirate he kinda laughed and i said what , he said that aspirating is the biggest myth because if you hit a blood vessel you have already punctured it so the damage is done. he said hitting a blood vessel in the muscle is not the same as injecting straight into a vein he said dont do that...... is he right or just a know it all prick
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04-23-2007, 05:34 PM #2
Im not going to risk it. There is nothing hard about aspirating, it takes a fraction of a second.
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04-23-2007, 05:35 PM #3
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Prick.You aspirate to see if you hit a vein right? So if you have you try another spot.My record is 3 times changing.Your in a world of pain in you inject X amount of oil into your vein.
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04-23-2007, 05:36 PM #4
Originally Posted by goose4
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04-23-2007, 05:42 PM #5
If you do not aspirate , hit a vein, and have an air bubble in the syringe, guess where that bubble goes to if you hit a vein....it will travel
Aspirate dude...not worth the risk.
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04-23-2007, 05:57 PM #6
Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
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04-23-2007, 06:17 PM #7
thanks i thought id just post it
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04-23-2007, 06:23 PM #8
Originally Posted by nbkandrew13
Your dr is absolutley right. My dr said the same thing. If you hit a vein 99% of the time you pucture it, and go right through to the muscle.
I still aspirate , but if I see a few drops of blood and air, Ill follow through. If I see blood rush in and 2cc is blood, i will pull out.
Dr's, nurses ect...very few aspirate.
I apirated many times without seeing a drop of blood and when i finsih the injection, ther's a few drops....no big deal.
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04-23-2007, 06:25 PM #9
so hes right but you should still do just in case???????????????? i mean aspirate
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04-23-2007, 06:26 PM #10
Originally Posted by nbkandrew13
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04-23-2007, 06:37 PM #11
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Very few docs actually do injections its all done by nurses.
My wife is an oncology nurse for 15 years and also trained by one of the countries top cancer hospitals to be on the IV team - they all aspirate .
There are a big difference seeing some blood in the syringe when you pull out and filling that syringe with blood when you aspirate.
if you dont believe me then try some Tren in a vein, it will change your mind pretty quick.
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04-23-2007, 06:38 PM #12
I work in a hospital and I sometimes watch nurses inject and they all aspirate .
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04-23-2007, 06:48 PM #13
i can feel the needle when it hits a vein, its kinda like a bump and i adjust the angle a lil bit to work around it but i give myself shots all the time and i hardly ever hit a vein.
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04-23-2007, 07:16 PM #14
i have been a RN for 14 years and never aspirated.....i've read that some guys here would draw back blood and pull the needle out and do it again and laugh my ass..it's makes no damn difference......the REAL TRICK for all my brothers on this board is to learn the z-track method....for me sheeet..if i get medication in a vein i just think it works faster and stronger...even though there is no such thing...
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04-23-2007, 07:40 PM #15
i havent ever aspirated nor hit a vein in my glutes or delts, "knock on wood"
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04-23-2007, 07:44 PM #16
i have put 3.5ml of tren into a vein.. even though i aspirate .. it went into a vein and my life.. was HORRID felt like dying for 15min ... chest hurt so bad. insane tightness/burning SO HARD TO BREATH.. best part is my chest felt like it was on fire for a day and a half! so if this ever happens again im givin up on injectables and going w/ transdermal cream
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04-23-2007, 07:51 PM #17
TAI do you now aspirate
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04-23-2007, 07:54 PM #18
I bet that doctor got his degree using one of those online universities... am I right?
Sounds like he needs to lose his license.
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04-23-2007, 07:59 PM #19
i dont asperate in my glutes as ive been fine and never nicked anything. but i still do in my quads and delts. i guess he can be right because if you do nick or hit a vein your going to know that second and your reaction is going to be to pull it out. the half a second to aspirate isnt going to hurt or take up any of your time.
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04-23-2007, 08:00 PM #20
i dont really know hes a navy dr and judging by some of the rns, and other responses hes right. anyway its a good debate
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04-23-2007, 08:02 PM #21
i aspirate about 60% of the time ive never hit a vein but i have hit a nerve and omfg it hurt i limped for a week my wife thought it was funny
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04-24-2007, 01:23 AM #22
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Always, always, always aspirate ....better safe than sorry.
If you don't practice it, you will wish you did when you accidently dump some gear into your bloodstream on one of the rare occasions it can happen....
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04-24-2007, 03:28 AM #23
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I never aspirated during my cycle, all glutes shots. I wish i could but find it very hard to do it without moving it. even while injecting it moves so much that when i take it out there is so much blood leaking from my injection site, not sure how you guys balance the syringe for around 1 minute in the glutes
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04-24-2007, 04:19 AM #24
The only time I have had any blood is after nicking a blood vessel. I can definately feel it when pushing the pin in - feels like a bit of resistance. Most times, I do not aspirate since i would not pull the pin out anyways. Of course I take the precaution of carefully choosing the injection site and I follow the techniques listed on this website.
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04-24-2007, 04:37 AM #25
Most docs don't aspirate simply because they're too lazy. Exactly like they are too lazy to change the needle after plunge it through the rubber top on a vial, even though we all know it can seriously dull the needle.
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04-24-2007, 04:48 AM #26
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04-24-2007, 05:57 AM #27
Hit a vein twice this week ??? Its a no brainer !!
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04-24-2007, 06:17 AM #28
real question is why not aspirate ?
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04-24-2007, 08:30 AM #29
I timed it! It takes 4/10th of a second!!!
I'm a busy guy & I still have that much time left in the day!
So why not asperate!
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04-24-2007, 08:53 AM #30
I used to not aspirate due to doing only glute injections but learned the error of my ways and went to qaud injections and that solved that issue.
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04-24-2007, 09:20 AM #31
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04-24-2007, 09:23 AM #32
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04-24-2007, 09:27 AM #33
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one tome i didnt aspirate in my delt and went through a vein, got pale and coughed, always apirate, especially when doing synthol which im doing in my biceps now
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04-24-2007, 09:40 AM #34
Originally Posted by therecanonlybe1
Sorry bro but I'm finishing my BSN and during clinicals... if you don't aspirate on an IM injection it is almost policy to get bitch slapped. Clearly you know little about the mechanism by which IM compounds work since you think it works faster and stronger if you inject into a vein.
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04-24-2007, 10:29 AM #35
Originally Posted by nbkandrew13
Originally Posted by taiboxa
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04-24-2007, 10:46 AM #36
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04-24-2007, 12:13 PM #37
Originally Posted by taiboxa
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04-24-2007, 12:27 PM #38
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you aspirate to see if you hit a vein or blood vessel, yeah once its done its dont tahts tnot the point...the point is so you dont shoot up into a vein and **** yourself up and possible kill yourself if you inject the tiniest amount of air into a vein...so your friend needs to wise up before he screwws himself up and brings down more heat and negativity on juice.
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04-24-2007, 12:29 PM #39
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Ninja kill him.....
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04-24-2007, 12:38 PM #40
Originally Posted by test_cyp
The old air bubble in the vein is a myth. Small bubbles of air that can get trapped in the shot,even if injected in to a vein wont kill you. Now if you inject full shot of air, you might have serious issues...Small air bubbles will be absorbed quickly in the blood stream. BTW, you should still asperate IMO...
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