Liquid AI's and serms and kidney pain?

**MikeCman** · 04-24-2007, 06:44 AM

Yo bros, im just curious if anyone out there has ever experienced kidney pain from the liquid letro or any other Ai's or serms. Recently I did a cycle of test and was using liquid nolva and within about a week I started getting kidney pain. Then, I started getting a little gyno at the end of my cycle and statred running liquid letro and within about a week I started getting kidney pain again. WTF is the deal with this bec. I know im not going insane. I also can't fully get rid of this gyno bec. every time i go above .75 with the letro the pain comes back. It starts on my left side and then Ill start feeling it on my right side as well. Should I try to get sum letro in pill form and try that bec. I think I've had enough of this liquid crap.

Could there be somehting in these liquid serms and ai's that cause this. I know for a fact that it is related to the letro bec. I started taking the letro and the pain came about, then i stopped the letro and the pain went away. Then, a few weeks later i decided to try it one more time and then three days after istarted taking the letro again sure enough the pain was back...

**Snrf** · 04-24-2007, 07:04 AM

I'm on liquid letro right now and no kidney pain. PM me where you got yours from if you dont mind..

**liquid2198** · 04-25-2007, 11:43 AM

i actually just got back from the Dr....started having BAD kidney pain 2 nights ago...im curretly on day 39 of 60mg/tbol a day....i was also running .30mg l-dex (just because im prone to gyno) rather b safe than sorry....now im wondering if its from the ldex....i have to get a sonogram of my kidney ...dr said he thinks its a kidney stone....

**liquid2198** · 04-25-2007, 01:15 PM

bump

**MikeCman** · 04-26-2007, 09:53 AM

I had the same thing happen to me, and i sent you a pm.

**jamikehat** · 04-26-2007, 10:37 AM

This is strange. Liquids are much less toxic than orals of the same strength. I have never heard of anything like this before.

**liquid2198** · 04-26-2007, 10:56 AM

how do you figure that liquids are much less toxic? i would think that they MIGHT be more toxic ***ending on what solvent is used....not sure though

**liquid2198** · 04-26-2007, 10:56 AM

whats up with the ***

**MikeCman** · 04-26-2007, 01:31 PM

If liquids are much less toxic, then why do doctors perscribe pills and not liquid meds?

**gettinbigger03** · 04-26-2007, 03:56 PM

I am just curious if the you felt the pain in the back where the kidneys actually are or if it was about where the kidneys were on the front. I was taking liquid clen and had pain in the front that started on the right side(about where I think the kidneys are) and then I felt it on the left as well. I know its not letro but it is a liquid from I'm assuming a research chem. supplier. I still have pain even after I've stopped using it.

**liquid2198** · 04-26-2007, 04:10 PM

my pain is in the posterior aspect of my right side (where my kidneys actully are)..the pain also radiates to the front as well.....i forgot to mention i am/was using liquid clen as well

**fLgAtOr** · 04-26-2007, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by jamikehat

This is strange. Liquids are much less toxic than orals of the same strength. I have never heard of anything like this before.

Liquid what?
Oral what?

"Liquids" and "orals" don't mean anything without knowing what compound you're referring to.

**bpm1** · 04-26-2007, 08:12 PM

"liquid" or "oral" are really the same thing as they are both ingested. one is not going to be harsher than the other, if the ingredients are the same.

**MikeCman** · 04-27-2007, 07:11 AM

thats what i was thinking...anyone know what arr suspends their meds in?

**gettinbigger03** · 04-28-2007, 05:59 PM

I don't know what they suspend there meds in but I would like to know too. I am going to start my first cycle soon and I was going to get liquid dex from them when they are up and running. I can't find it anywhere else. I can't get or give pm's for anyone to help me out either. Someone tried on a thread I started about my first cycle. I guess its because I have less than 45 posts?