Looking for words of encouragement here!

[bigfnguy]

Greetings all. Let me start by saying, No more tren for me. I am on a relitively low dose and feel like crap. Thank God I have only been taking it for 6 days now.

Cant sleep, and not really feeling bad, just not feeling good at all. Anyone in here have any suggestions on how to maby speed up the metabilization of this stuff to get it out?

I have been doing 50mg EOD, with 60mg of Anavar ED and 200mg of test per week. I have been mixing the test with the tren shots. No libedo problems but feelign yucky. ANy suggestions?

Thanks
BFG

[Knoxston]

take some detox drinks lotsa water

[taiboxa]

first i think you havent given it ample time to make a proper decision as that is WHAT TREN DOES! you just stated the basic sides... and if u did any research at all you would already of known about them and been ready for them. the gains tren gives are phanominal and unmatched but i doubt you will see that as your dose is too low, yout administartion protocol is not ideal, and infact alot of people go through those sides w/ all sorts of exogenous hormones. its part of the transition. but oh well ur call.

all i can say is .. research next time k?

[bigfnguy]

Thanks for the advise. I did my research on Tren and understood the sides before I took it. Just saying, I don't like them. I also know my doses are low and that was on purpose, just trying a not nuts cutting cycle, not trying to get crazy just a boost. I do regret it and maby will consider it again in the futre on a bulking stack with lots of test, but for now, considering I am not trying to go to a show or anything at this time, for now; too harsh for me. I have to say that just in the short time I have been taking it, my workouts have been absolutely outstanding. I see in the future I will have a love hate relationship with the stuff. Will save it for a few cycles down the road.

Happy Lifting
BFG

[spywizard]

first i think you havent given it ample time to make a proper decision as that is WHAT TREN DOES! you just stated the basic sides... and if u did any research at all you would already of known about them and been ready for them. the gains tren gives are phanominal and unmatched but i doubt you will see that as your dose is too low, yout administartion protocol is not ideal, and infact alot of people go through those sides w/ all sorts of exogenous hormones. its part of the transition. but oh well ur call.

all i can say is .. research next time k?

spot on Tai.. but you didn't tell him what to do to make it better..

I don't do tren, thus i am limited..

[testisbest]

what kind of test are you running? I just quit trenA at 50mgs/day after 2.5 weeks.

[bigfnguy]

I was running Sust 350@ 200mg week with the tren. Just to avoid the Finadik thing. Didn't want the equipment to stop working. When I go on my bulking cycle, I will probably run the Sust 350 at 750 to 1000mg per week stacked with 40mg of d-bol ED. When I do this I may reconsider the tren thing. I loved what it did for me in the gym, even for the short time I was using it, but man I hated how I felt. The evening I made my first post on this thread, I wanted to die. As I stated in a earlier post, i did my research and knew what I was getting into, but it is like getting a tattoo. You know it will hurt, you just don't know how much or if you can take it until you are in the chair. I am thinking that on my bulking stack, maby with the more test being used, I will not feel as bad. Then again, I will be doing more research on that angle before I use it again.

For now, just doing the natural cuting thing. Probably what I should have done in the first place, just was looking for a bit of a boost. With the workouts that I am doing, and the Cardio that I am doing along with eating very clean, I am seeing good results. It will just take a bit longer thats all.

Thanks all for the advise.
BFG

[taiboxa]

I was running Sust 350@ 200mg week with the tren. Just to avoid the Finadik thing. Didn't want the equipment to stop working. When I go on my bulking cycle, I will probably run the Sust 350 at 750 to 1000mg per week stacked with 40mg of d-bol ED. When I do this I may reconsider the tren thing. I loved what it did for me in the gym, even for the short time I was using it, but man I hated how I felt. The evening I made my first post on this thread, I wanted to die. As I stated in a earlier post, i did my research and knew what I was getting into, but it is like getting a tattoo. You know it will hurt, you just don't know how much or if you can take it until you are in the chair. I am thinking that on my bulking stack, maby with the more test being used, I will not feel as bad. Then again, I will be doing more research on that angle before I use it again.

For now, just doing the natural cuting thing. Probably what I should have done in the first place, just was looking for a bit of a boost. With the workouts that I am doing, and the Cardio that I am doing along with eating very clean, I am seeing good results. It will just take a bit longer thats all.

Thanks all for the advise.
BFG

all the people i have advised on their cycles i have had them running TRT dose of test when running tren. it seems far easier to manage the sides this way as well as reducing the lethargy and sweats. im curious as to what else u were running w/ the tren as far as ancillries go and i would definetly do an ED administration protocol w/ trenA. its very rare to see those sides from tren that early on at such a low dose.

[jagdpanther]

bigfnguy you must be on a rollercoaster ride with hormone levles. your doing sust which you need to shoot regulalry if you want stable hormone levels - at 200 you are probably just shooting once a week - maybe twice. Now i know people will say you don't need to shot it more frequntly and that is true unless your trying to maintain stable hormone levels.
the tren acetate can be used EOD but again if your trying to maintain stable hormone levels you need to shoot it ED not EOD.

why would you want to maintian stable hormone levels? - usually it cuts down on the sides. I would be having hellish sides on the little doses you are running from the instability alone - your body is shooting up down and all around. I think the protocol is largely to blame.

Tai's suggestion about the low test high tren works and works well, at least for me and i used to not be able to tolerate over 450mg of tren a week due to the sides. the other thing i did was sit down with some data from studies on the relase and decline of hormone levels from various esters and come up with a protocol for trying to stabalize my hormone levels. needless to say it is close to ED for everything except the test e which i do E4D. - but I am barely taking any test anyway - so comapred to the other hormone levles any fluxuation from the test is minor.

I could unerstand you feeling shitty after a month or two of insomnia - that is where I'm at but after a week it shouldn't be that bad. If I were you I'd over haul the injection protocol and give tren another try.

[dece870717]

Man I'm starting to think I got genetics for roids. So far everything I've tried I get very min. sides and recover quickly during PCT. I'm on my 4th week of Tren Ace at 50mg/day and I think this is a bit light, no insomnia, no sweats, no nothing except much higher aggresion and awesome ass gains.

[bigfnguy]

Hay Jag thanks for the tip. Makes perfect sence. As for my 200mg of test per week. I actually was mixing smaller doses of test with my tren shot. Thus getting it eod as well. (Made sence at the time anyway.) Also I don't intend ot give up on tren, expecially considering what it can do, but nextime, I will use it on a bulking cycle rather than cutting cycle. I will aslo then consider probably 50mg ED use rather than eod, and run it with Sust 350 (350mg e3d), and good old D-BOL 40mg per day.

I will follow the pct I found in here as follows as well.

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Looking forward to it, but want to wait for a bit more cutting first. I figure between the sust, tren, and d-bol, I should be able to assist my travels to becoming a monster. lol. Thanks again for the advise.

BFG