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    Next Cycle, Your opinons....

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    Quote Originally Posted by unoigo
    Personal Stats: 6', 190 lbs, 10% BF, 29 yo, training since HS. I'm currently dieting and usually maintain 205 lbs in the offseason. I'm naturally lean.

    AAS Background: I've run 4 previous cycles:
    1. Test E 300 mg/ week 1-10
    2. Dbol 25 mg/day 1-4, Test E 300 mg/ week 1-10
    3. Dbol 25 mg/day 1-4, Test E 300 mg/ week 1-12
    4. TBol 50 mg/ day 1-6

    Here’s the deal, my body reacts very well to Test. That's why I maintain small doses. However my 3rd cycle started out a 500 mg/ week of Test E but gyno got way outta hand so I backed in down to 300 and was able to manage it with Adex. First 2 cycles gyno was never an issue, used 10 mgs of nolva throughout. My fourth cycle of Tbol was this past winter. Wanted to try out all the hype. Loved it! but...... it aggravated the previous gyno. Had to run nolva at 20 mgs to keep it under control. I know TBol shouldn't cause gyno as it doesn't aromatize but I'm just giving you my case. I know it was legit (see pics in photo section) and it wasn't DBol because I know how my body reacts to DBol. So 2 points to keep in mind, 1) I respond well to low doses and 2) I’m prone to gyno.

    I’m planning my next cycle and here are two ideas:
    1-4 Tbol, 60 mg/ day
    1-12 Test E, 400 mg/ week
    1-12 EQ, 200 mg/ week
    Or
    1-4 Tbol, 60 mg/ day
    5-14 Primo, 200 mg/ week
    1-14 Test E, 400 mg/ week

    My guess is that most of you will say I won’t see anything off the low doses of Primo or EQ and that I should run Tbol for 6 weeks weeks min. But we’ll see, please share your comments.
    I doubt you will see any kind of gains with primo and eq at 200mg per wk, IMHO i would drop both of them and just run tbol and test E, Id consider front loading the test E and cut the cycle down to 10 wks.

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    Before we venture any deeper, please list your goal(s) and what you want to achieve with your cycle.

    ***ending on your goal(s) and what you want to achieve, there might be a better combonation of coumpounds you could run. An thus an alternative cycle can be suggested for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    Before we venture any deeper, please list your goal(s) and what you want to achieve with your cycle.

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    As much as I don't like to say it, my goal is a lean bulk of solid muscle while minimizing bloat. I don't care for the 25 lbs while on and keeping 10 after PCT. I would rather be at 10 while on and keep 8 after.

    I know my body. Nutrition isn't an issue. Justing looking at AAS to help speed up the bulk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unoigo
    As much as I don't like to say it, my goal is a lean bulk of solid muscle while minimizing bloat. I don't care for the 25 lbs while on and keeping 10 after PCT. I would rather be at 10 while on and keep 8 after.

    I know my body. Nutrition isn't an issue. Justing looking at AAS to help speed up the bulk.
    Understandable bro, after looking at your cycle history, here is what i would suggest.

    1-10 prop 75-100mg/ed
    1-8 Tren A 75-100mg/ed
    1-8 Tbol 60-80mg/ed

    This IMO will yield you great lean gains, if of course your nutrition is on check. It also reduces your time on, which will benefit you in recovery.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Ghost,

    I appreciate the feedback, will difintely take it under consideration.

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    ^ Getting this back up top for more comments.

    After a little thought, not sure if ED sticking would work but we'll see.

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