post your Bad Tren experience

[Mike Dura]

I'd love to hear tren horror stories. God can be giving but watch out for his wrath!

[Mike Dura]

Maybe post your bad tren experiences? Por Favor!

[shrpskn]

Two words: Tren cough.

[J*U*icEd]

never had tren cough... but the worst for me is looking like i jumped im a pool while im working and insomnia... thats about it

[bigpianoman]

Is this infamous Tren cough talked about, more prevelant in home brewed from pellets trena?

i just started my first run with tren a . 75mg ED a week in no cough, one time i had that heavy lung feeling and metal taste for a few mins.

IM using a UG powder trena.

[TCGypsy]

Dark urine and lower back pain which was fixed by drinking a TON of water (was using Tren Acetate 75mg EoD + fast test).

[jagdpanther]

The worst side effect is trensomnia which turns into trenzombia after 6-8 weeks. other wise it is hands down de best.

[Pooks]

worst side-effect: woman hate while i'm on it LOL...and it blows, cause u're so cut u actually feel you're at your best.

but than psychosis seems to set in, and u're

[testisbest]

The worst side effect is trensomnia which turns into trenzombia after 6-8 weeks. other wise it is hands down de best.

I agree but I didn't even last 3 weeks.

[SuperLift]

sweats! I ran it for 5-6 weeks at 50mg/ed and would sweat all the time.

[godkilla]

night sweats, trensomnia and a broke dick

[NotSmall]

Yup - night sweats, insomnia, increased irritability (and I'm an intolerant twat at the best of times!), some kidney pain - all in all it was a nasty experience...

...I'm back on it next week though!

[shrpskn]

...I'm back on it next week though!

Yup!...I'm back on the liquid gold me self.

Like I've said so many times, tren and I have a love-hate relationship...I hate the sides sometimes, but love the results...can't beat it.

[cj1capp]

I have had the cough so bad I thought i would cough my lungs out but its an experience I have come to love. Im not running tren at the moment but it will back in my next cycle.

[Big Papi JR.]

well it's good to know i'm not the only one to have such a terrible experience with the dreaed tren cough?

[robkesl]

i remember this one time, i was shooting 2cc into my delt, and about 1cc into the shot, the tren cough came on. so i was like oh crap....and i started to force the other cc in faster, but by the time i got to the end i was shaking like crazy trying to hold in the coughs. when i finally got the shot done, i pulled the syringe out, and blood flowed from the injection site, it was the worst case of tren cough i have ever had, i was on the floor cou***ng like crazy, blood coming out of my arm, i couldnt really even attempt to deal with the blood, because i was cou***ng so bad..... it probally only lasted 10-15min. but it seemed like forever...

then i got up and i realized the blood made its way down to my white carpet, and when i left my room, my roommates where like wtf??? we were about to come in there to see what was going on...

[ph34rsh4ck]

What was that trensomnia like? You just couldnt sleep everynight or what?

[blou_bulle]

I had bad cough and evil sweats! Couldn't sleep well either, good gain though.

[seriouslifter]

Dark urine and lower back pain which was fixed by drinking a TON of water (was using Tren Acetate 75mg EoD + fast test).

how much water because i thought my lower back pain went away as time went on, but i think i still have it alittle.

[GrimmReaper]

malfunctioning dick, sweats, and a ****ing awsome pump

[mickdiesel]

do we know what the cough is from. I wonder if because it once a pellet that possibly some of the diluted pellet walls get caught in the blood vessels of your alveoli's. I want to do tren but it can't be a good thing that you cough that much

[mickdiesel]

its not a sexy comparisson but when drug addicts grind up Read the board rules. Do not discuss recreational drug use. and shoot it they often are found to have tumors in their lungs from pieces of the pill coating getting caught in the alveoli and scar tisue forming around it. now I know we use filters but in canada they give out the same filters we use to the addicts andit still happens. I know they're probably not as careful as we are but it could be similar. I wonder if we go through the same thing. any input?

[shrpskn]

^^No, "tren cough" is triggered by a different mechanism...I posted a study on it...I'll look it up and post again if I can find it.

BTW, the rec drug discussion in your above post may be relevant to this thread, but unfortunately it still violates board policy...may want to edit or Admin will for you.

Peace,

[shrpskn]

Here is what causes the "Tren cough"...

It's been widely discussed of Tren's fat burning properties through rises in prostaglandins and IGF.
IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today. Prostaglandins are fairly unknown, in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways (Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation (Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate (Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins (as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction (the main form of expulsion)


Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine

[Microbrew]

Never really had any bad sides I couldn't deal with until I got my blood work done. Put alot of strain on my kidneys

Micro

[babybalz]

well, i had a real good job as a Gen Mgr of a automobile dealership once. while running tren 75mg ed for 8 weeks i looked and felt like god! Then one day coming into work some guy cut me off driving so i flipped him off and he pulled over to the side of the road so i beat his head into his car. That morning at work some guy showed up late so instead of punching him (which rook every ounce of sanity i had) i threw a computer and a chair!! That was my last day at that job! Im sure they still talk about me now. Bad shit for the attitude i dont care what anyone says. Tren will turn a preacher into a RAGe!!

[Lion King]

I make my own tren and have never experienced any fina cough. I only do 75mg eod. I'm sure higher doses might bring more sides but I get such good gains off the amount I'm doing. I do get night sweats though.

[Lion King]

Rage is something that can be controlled through rational thought. Just because you're hungry does'nt mean you have to eat. Just because your angry does'nt mean you have to fight someone. Having those desires and overcomming them makes you stronger.

[robkesl]

Rage is something that can be controlled through rational thought. Just because you're hungry does'nt mean you have to eat. Just because your angry does'nt mean you have to fight someone. Having those desires and overcomming them makes you stronger.

Well Said!

[mickdiesel]

cmopletely true but something far easier said than done. some ofus are far bigger hot heads than others for many reasons. and i d like to apologize for the rec. drug mention. I didn't realize referencing a study I read could constitute a violation of the rec. drug rule. its jus something I read in a book published by a famous autopsy practitioner and I thought it would be relevant to the topic. I won't mention I again but I think it was a good question. theres actually lots of info that correlate from both sides of the coin. we should figure out a way to discuss them without violating the rules.

[Mike Dura]

That's reasonable and well said.

cmopletely true but something far easier said than done. some ofus are far bigger hot heads than others for many reasons. and i d like to apologize for the rec. drug mention. I didn't realize referencing a study I read could constitute a violation of the rec. drug rule. its jus something I read in a book published by a famous autopsy practitioner and I thought it would be relevant to the topic. I won't mention I again but I think it was a good question. theres actually lots of info that correlate from both sides of the coin. we should figure out a way to discuss them without violating the rules.

[sinewy11]

First, at low dose, I experienced appetite suppressive effects, and crazy night sweats, whereas, at higher doses (100+mg ED) ... I just had trensomnia, and had to eat benedryls like candy to get through the night with any sort of accrual of sleep. Also, I don't even REMOTELY feel the aggressiveness others feel on tren, but then again, I don't really get phenominal gains, either. Worst thing I went through off of it was HEINOUS acne, which is kept majory in check with accutane...

[Mike Dura]

That's idealistic but is it realistic. I'm sure it is for some but there are individual differences in more than one way. First, some people are better skilled with emotiuonal defusion. Second, one's role model(s) or socialization (e.g., a family that valued and demonstrated self-restraint). Third, genetics - some are more hard-wired for rage.

I try and more often that not succeed in controlling myself but I've also had moments where I kind of snap. It feels like you're body has "a mind of it's own" and you become the observer to the unfortunate actions that follow. I use mostly test and I've had one such moment. It was a hot day and I was feeling irritible and then I was rubbed the wrong way and the rest was a blur. In hindsight, I regret that I lost it.

cmopletely true but something far easier said than done. some ofus are far bigger hot heads than others for many reasons. and i d like to apologize for the rec. drug mention. I didn't realize referencing a study I read could constitute a violation of the rec. drug rule. its jus something I read in a book published by a famous autopsy practitioner and I thought it would be relevant to the topic. I won't mention I again but I think it was a good question. theres actually lots of info that correlate from both sides of the coin. we should figure out a way to discuss them without violating the rules.

[Mike Dura]

I'm so on the fence about tren. I'd love to see how radically hard and vascular I can get yet I is scared!!!! I remember taking Superdrol and I felt like total shit. I would hate trying to train with flu-like symptoms. DAmn!!!

[Lion King]

Like you said, "everyone is different". I have almost no sides when using tren and prop. Give it a whirl and if you get too many sides, go off of it and substitute in something else. Who knows, you may not have any sides.

[Decoder]

i remember this one time, i was shooting 2cc into my delt, and about 1cc into the shot, the tren cough came on. so i was like oh crap....and i started to force the other cc in faster, but by the time i got to the end i was shaking like crazy trying to hold in the coughs. when i finally got the shot done, i pulled the syringe out, and blood flowed from the injection site, it was the worst case of tren cough i have ever had, i was on the floor cou***ng like crazy, blood coming out of my arm, i couldnt really even attempt to deal with the blood, because i was cou***ng so bad..... it probally only lasted 10-15min. but it seemed like forever...

then i got up and i realized the blood made its way down to my white carpet, and when i left my room, my roommates where like wtf??? we were about to come in there to see what was going on...

you could have replaced tren with Read the board rules. No discussion of recreational drugs. in that story.

[skipp]

It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself not to use it Mike.. IMO if you're at that stage where you need tren to grow, trying it isn't bad. Because you can always stop, but you'll never know what you're missing if you don't start.

[Mike Dura]

Not to grow, to fasciliate shredding up!

It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself not to use it Mike.. IMO if you're at that stage where you need tren to grow, trying it isn't bad. Because you can always stop, but you'll never know what you're missing if you don't start.