Looking for help with first cycle ever

**T_Guns** · 05-10-2007, 11:50 AM

Hi everyone! Im 19 years old, 6'3 and 205 lbs. I have been training for the past 3 years hard along with having the right diet, and sleep. For the past 3 years I have been taking creatine, glutamine, bcaa's, Vitamin c's, Cell tech, Prota quest whey protein, and have also added trac to my supplements 2 months ago for that extra push. I feel as though I am not at my potential size and am dissappointed with myself, in other words im turning to the dark side.

I have been doing alot of research the past year and have finally decided to turn to steroids . I was thinking about going with Cypionate for 500mg a week for 5-10 weeks. Now my question is that since this is my first cycle ever, will cyp be fine by itself? Do i need to run nolvadex and clomid? Wat should my pct look like since this is my first time?

Thanks for the help if possible!

**Random** · 05-10-2007, 11:52 AM

You shouldnt cycle at your age...

CD

**Random** · 05-10-2007, 11:53 AM

I have been doing alot of research the past year and have finally decided to turn to steroids. I was thinking about going with Cypionate for 500mg a week for 5-10 weeks

You havent been doing enough research man...cyp should not be cycled for 5 wks....since i feel you are going to cycle anyway, why not try some prohormones first?

CD

**T_Guns** · 05-10-2007, 11:57 AM

How many weeks should it be cycled for.... I was thinking 5-10 weeks for a trial run to see how it goes.

Any tips on good prohormones, like wat brands and wat not?

**Random** · 05-10-2007, 11:58 AM

I was thinking 5-10 weeks for a trial run to see how it goes.

A trial run to see how it goes? um this isnt a game man....

you should try 17HD by vyotech IMO

CD

**T_Guns** · 05-10-2007, 12:09 PM

Ok, since you kinda have me being swayed away from steroids now where can I get this 17HD by vyotech? Next question, I ust looked up the product and it seems to be pretty good. Any other mass packing supplements that u can think of for a guy of my size and age?

**Random** · 05-10-2007, 12:11 PM

It is pretty good man, i would get it of bb.com...

take that protein/creatine to start and theres no reason you shouldnt make good gains...

CD

**T_Guns** · 05-10-2007, 12:18 PM

Ok one last question i think, I take 5g of creatine, 1 scoop of prota quest whey protein, and 1000mg of vitamin c before i workout, followed by cell tech after and glutamine. Is this an ok program to go by to gain size? This is where i kinda had a father who would know about this stuff, instead hes a drunk

**trulbfan3** · 05-10-2007, 12:18 PM

if you have done the research you say you have you would know 5 weeks of cyp is worthless...oh yeah, you would know that cell tech = shit....your to young and need to study up on juice more...not trying to falme but you dont seem to have the basics yeat and we dont wont you screwing yourself up....juice already sends off a negative vibe in society, we dont need to add any more fuel to the fire...good luck

**Lexed** · 05-10-2007, 12:28 PM

Oxydrol 12 if your looking for some good pro hormones

RA · 05-10-2007, 12:30 PM

The problem with pro hormones is that they raise your estrogen level as well.

**ottomaddox** · 05-10-2007, 02:36 PM

And kill your lipid profiles too.

Originally Posted by roidattack

The problem with pro hormones is that they raise your estrogen level as well.

**longhorn814** · 05-10-2007, 02:37 PM

dude, what is your diet like? How many calories a day do you eat? How many cals come from protein, carbs, and fat? Do you know these? The reason youre no where near your potential size is b/c your still developing and you probably dont know to eat properly. At your age, if your not growing muscle, its b/c youre not eating enough period!!! If you cant gain naturally at your age, you wont gain much from gear and will keep even less. I suggest you spend more time working on your diet. You may THINK you know how to eat, but I guarantee you dont. I learn more about my body and my diet all the time, and Ive been doing this crap for almost 15 years..or since you were 4!!!

**getfit28** · 05-10-2007, 02:48 PM

Bro at your age you should not touch this stuff just yet... I'm 28 now I did a my first cycle a couple of months ago thinking I did all the research I needed,,, boy I was wrong.... It was not a very good experience I ended up with some gyno but thank god I got it cured... you should maybe look into some PH first...