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    bigbenny21 is offline New Member
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    Newbi Doing First Cycle

    Hello allz,

    I hope this is all the information you need:
    Age: 22
    Weight: 87kg
    Height: 5ft 10'
    Training: Training for 3 years (about 3 - 4 times aweek)
    Diet: Was a little messy (too much fatty foods) but have now moved to a High Protien diet.
    Information: been looking for over 8 months (researching alot)

    Now im starting my first cycle..
    And im looking to stack Deca , Sust and Test on a 12 week cycle (thats what was advised to me).
    But I would love to know from people I no that have done it right if that would be the best first cycle for good muscle gain and growth.

    If there are is any improvment that you can tell me this would be very much appricated.

    Thanks for your time reading this post.
    look foward to reading your reply

    Ben

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    1st off welcome to the forum!

    Sust is test...why not just pick one ester and stick to it. I didn't run more than test/dbol my first cycle, but I'm not going to tell you not to use deca on your first cycle...maybe a moderate dose though. Perhapse somethign like wk 1-10 300mgs deca wk1-12 300-500mgs/wk test enth/cyp...sust will work too just not my favorite. Have you researched proper PCT. Do you plan on running an AI with your cycle?

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    sus 250 and deca 300 was my first cycle and it was nothing but a positive experience. I gained 25 lbs and kept 20lbs. It only took a couple months after that to gain back the 5 that I lost.

    The only side I didn't like was the water retention but you could run letro to keep that down.

    Make sure pct is in check though

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    bigbenny21 is offline New Member
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    First of all thanks heaps for your replys.
    orion just a question:

    With the letro, how would I work that into my cycle?
    And ill be honest with you all I havent checked into PCT, how will that work?

    Thanks All Again.

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    You have some research to do on PCT. Letro is pretty strong. Arimidex might be a better choice to use during cycle. If your dosages are moderate (as they should be on a first cycle) you probably won't need either, but you should have it on hand just in case. just my opinion.

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    Ive been told on the first cycle that:
    Deca 100ml - 300ml week 1 - 10
    If I had Arimidex how much should I take?

    Ill research now about PCT..
    Thanks

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    I would start with .25 of Arimidex and up to .5 if needed.

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    Do you know which Test you want run? Remember that adding Sus means that you'll have to pin EOD, so that may not be the best idea for a first cycle.. Test E is what most recommend because you'll only have to pin Monday and Thursday.. Definatly research PCT as it is very important for keeping your gains. Most recommend a stack of Nolva/Clomid for at least 4 weeks and running an AI throughout the cycle. Adex and Proviron are pretty good choices.. Good luck and keep reading!!

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    Deca 100ml - 300ml week 1 - 10? need to read more. (about 3 - 4 times aweek)to the gym = not ready

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    drop the deca , stick to test only for your first cycle

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    bigbenny21 is offline New Member
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    Thanks Eat to much and Big Truck.
    Big Truck, so you would Recommend TestPro or TestEn?
    And should I run that with dinabolt and Sust?

    Thanks for your help all, keep posting, as im reasearching and learnng of you guys at the same time.

    Thanks

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    Test P you will have to shot every other day, test e is about 2x a week.

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