First Cycle choices: Test E or Var??

**Amateur BB111** · 05-17-2007, 12:40 AM

I like the idea of keeping most of my gains which should be clean from the var... but its alot more expensive then Test E.... Test E will put on more weight but also requires more ancillaries.... IF i would do Var i'd plan on doing 60 mg ED for 8 weeks... i would include the use of proviron for libido and finasteride to combat MPB while on cycle... my pct for the var would be clomid 100 mg week 9, 50 week 10-12 /nolva... 40mg week 9, 30 mg week 10, 20mg week 11-12....
i would do the same PCT for test E... except i would include 500 IU HCG ED for two weeks after my last Test E shot, then run the clomid and nolva. I would also like to run either aromasin or arimidex while on cycle with the finasteride as well for MPB... and i would the test for two weeks longer (ten weeks)

what do you think would be a better first choice for me...
BTW my stats: 5 10", 180lbs, 10% BF... almost 23 years old, never cycled before, blood levels checked at 374 ng/dl for total testosterone ...
blood lipids are in a good range... blood pressure 120/70...

**Manpretty** · 05-17-2007, 06:36 AM

they are two different drugs.....what do you want out of the cycle?

**Dog-Slime** · 05-17-2007, 09:13 AM

Also, finasteride will do no good for any hairloss that may be caused by var or proviron .

**Selene** · 05-17-2007, 09:26 AM

I think you will like the result you will see with the Test E, but yes, what are you looking to see as far as results

and whatever you decide, good luck to you

**Amateur BB111** · 05-17-2007, 08:32 PM

looking for keepable clean gains of about 10 lbs... want to stay shredded... also what would i need to prevent hairloss from anavar and proviron ?
Dutasteride?

**gooer** · 05-17-2007, 08:47 PM

dutasteride and finasteride are only gonna block the hair loss from test, for anavar and proviron you're gonna need nizoral shampoo and rogaine.

at your stats i'd go with the classic first cycle of test e 500 mg a week with the fina, you'll put on 15-20 lbs if your training and diet are spot on, probably about 10 of which you'll keep.

i don't think anavar and proviron are the best to help you reach your goals but i don't have personal experience with them, just what i've heard and read.

**gooer** · 05-17-2007, 08:49 PM

oh and do the anthony roberts for pct from the pct section (aromasin , nolva and hcg ) and if you want to take an anti e on cycle i'd recommend arimidex .

**renman8** · 05-17-2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Amateur BB111

looking for keepable clean gains of about 10 lbs... want to stay shredded... also what would i need to prevent hairloss from anavar and proviron ?
Dutasteride?

Run Test E. You will gain around 20lbs if you eat right and then if you want to cut down the BF to 7-8% and lose say 8lbs you will be ripped. You can pair it with finastride to prevent hair loss and as for the ancillaries, they are not that expensive, nor difficult to take. Prob end up spending less this way will all said and done anyways... good luck