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    Same buck more bang?

    First a little bit of stats and cycle history:
    29 years
    6'2"
    207lbs
    bf~12%

    1st cycle test enan-deca -winny.
    2nd cycle dbol -test cyp.
    3rd cycle homebrew test e-deca.
    4th cycle Tbol 8wk 60mg.
    5th cycle continuous Tbol 0-10-20-40 0-10-20-40 mg

    I'm considering either one of these cycles for my next one:

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    Test-E 400mg/wk--Equipoise 400mg/wk--Tbol 60 mg/d

    or

    Test-E 750mg/wk--Equipoise 400mg/wk--Tbol 40 mg/d
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    PCT same for both cycles
    clen /hcg /nolva (letro on hand)

    Not sure yet for how long I would run it, probably somewhere around 6-12 weeks.

    The reason I'm comparing these two in particular is that they would cost the same to run (slightly more than the cost of a gym membership for 2 x12 week cycles, time on = time off)

    I'm thinking these would yield rather similar gains. I was thinking the first cycle with less test and more tbol with would lead to less bloat, and maybe a bit less sides, though being a bit harsher on the liver?

    Alternatively I could replace the Equipoise with Deca, but I believe eq has less chance of causing bloating.

    Thanks

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    personally i dont like tbol or EQ but thats just me.
    EQ is so weak IMO it doesnt matter wat dose u utilize its going to do the exact same thing.. increase vascularity and blood pressure and thats BOUT IT.
    test is pretty much the same imo, as for LBM/str gains its not very potent.. a DHT or Nor group would be far more effective inplace of the EQ and keep the test moderately low to reduce aromitization and ***endency on ancillaries.

    so in sum i would choose the first suggestion.

    as for your pct.. U REALLY NEED AROMASIN in there nolva+aromasin is a more ideal pct combo

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    For the same amount I could run:

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    Test-E 400mg/wk--Equipoise 400mg/wk --Tbol 60mg/d

    or

    Test-E 400mg/wk--Tren Acetate 60mg EOD--Tbol [U]60mg/d

    or even

    Test-E 400mg/wk--Tren Acetate 60mg EOD--Winny 70mg/d

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    I believe the second option is an improvement in line with your recommendations? The third option being one step closer to your advice?
    Last edited by Myostatinus; 05-24-2007 at 01:20 PM.

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    Test E - 200mg/wk
    Tren A - 75mg/day
    Masteron - 50mg/day

    There ya go..

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipp
    Test E - 200mg/wk
    Tren A - 75mg/day
    Masteron - 50mg/day

    There ya go..

    Interesting...

    Running the numbers, though, it comes out 37% more expensive

    Some AAS are of course more potent per mg, but what is of real interest is the potency per $. I've taken a reversed approach. I decided how much I want to "invest" and then try to tailor the most effective stack whithin that budget...

    Do you think I could get away with
    Test E - 200mg/wk
    Tren A - 50mg/day
    Masteron - 50mg/day

    This combination is only 11% more expensive

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    dont talk bout price. and 2ndly the tren /mast or tren/win vs EQ + tbol is like saying

    do u wanna go hunting w/ this grenade launcher or this b.b. gun?

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    if you cant affford a proper cycle then DONT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manpretty
    if you cant affford a proper cycle then DONT
    I agree that one should not be cheap. The challenge being to design the most effective stack on a given budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    dont talk bout price. and 2ndly the tren /mast or tren/win vs EQ + tbol is like saying

    do u wanna go hunting w/ this grenade launcher or this b.b. gun?

    Hence a lower dose of tren and masteron affords more bang for the same buck as EQ or Winny...

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