ONE OF OUR QUINTESSENTIAL Q'S: Do some steroids literally “burn fat”?
STEROID QUESTION: Do some steroids literally “burn fat”?
I'm really tired of hearing apparently parroted information regarding steroids’, namely Var and Tren, inability to incite fat loss. Please read their respective profiles which clearly refute such rhetoric by illustrating the diametric opposite:
Anavar may be what we’d call a “fat-burning steroid”. A**ominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used Anavar (4).
… Absolute change in total fat mass (A) and trunk fat (B)
… means you can lose a bunch of fat during your time on, then keep most (if not all) of it off until your next cycle.
-http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199816As for the former, the execution of only a cursory internet search quickly generated the following studies.Trenbolone is extraordinarily good as a fat loss agent.
It is a little known fact is that androgen receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(10), androgens act directly on the A.R in fat cells to affect fat burning.(11) the stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose tissue (fat)(11). Since some steroids even increase the numbers of A.R in muscle and fat (11, 12) this fat loss effect would be amplified…
-http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199832
Presented for your approval (or disapproval as the case may be) are three very different studies (goal, orientation, methodology & subject demography), all of which conclusively agree that Oxandrolone (A.K.A. Anavar) does indeed possess the statistically significant effect of reducing fat stores throughout the body, which translates into genuine fat loss.
These studies also agree that although muscular development from said compound may be temporal, as based on certain variables (wasting disease, progressive aging, lack of continued muscle stimulus, etc.) the aforementioned fat loss is in fact quite well sustained. This is of course not to say that through the employment of various metabolic abuses (lack of exercise, poor eating habits, improper dieting, etc.) that one can never replenish said fat stores, as such a remark would be ludicrous.
For those who, after reviewing both profiles and the diversity of studies provided, would still like to believe that steroids don’t actually burn fat I say “FINE”, to each his own. But please refrain from overtly lying to other members and visitors in this regard. I fully understand the spirit in which such sanctions are presented; primarily to discourage gear abuse and misuse, however that doesn’t make such declarations true, nor should such mistruths continue to reverberate throughout the forum. Slight discretion on your part can easily permit the co-existence of these values for example, "Clinical studies have proven, and been validated by member testimony that these compounds do indeed burn fat. However, they're effects are optimized by, and should not be considered a substitute for sound diet and exercise." Well maybe less verbose, but you get the gist.
Thanks for your ear,
M.
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Treatment with oxandrolone and the durability of effects in older men
E. Todd Schroeder,1,4 Ling Zheng,2 Kevin E. Yarasheski,3 Dajun Qian,2 Yolanda Stewart,2 Carla Flores,2 Carmen Martinez,2 Michael Terk,4,5 and Fred R. Sattler1,2,41
Division of Infectious Diseases, ***artment of Medicine, 2General Clinical Research Center, and 5***artment of Radiology,
Keck School of Medicine, and 4***artment of Biokinesiology and Physical Therapy, University of Southern California,
Los Angeles, California 90033; and 3Divisions of Metabolism, Endocrinology and Lipid Research and Cell Biology and
Physiology, ***artment of Internal Medicine, Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis, Missouri 63110
Submitted 31 July 2003; accepted in final form 17 October 2003
J Appl Physiol 96: 1055–1062, 2004.
First published October 24, 2003; 10.1152/japplphysiol.00808.2003.
RESULTS:
Fat mass. There was a significant (P _ 0.03) group _ time interaction for total fat mass. Oxandrolone reduced whole body fat mass (_1.9 _ 1.0 kg, P _ 0.001; Fig. 3A) and trunk fat mass (_1.3 _ 0.6 kg, P _ 0.001; Fig. 3B), whereas placebo did not (whole body _ _0.2 _ 1.0 kg, P _ 0.58; trunk _0.0 _ 0.7 kg; P _ 0.87). The decreases in whole body and trunk fat mass were greater in the oxandrolone group than in the placebo group (P _ 0.001). After oxandrolone was discontinued (week 24), whole body and trunk fat were still less than baseline (_1.5 _ 1.8 kg, P _ 0.001; _1.0 _ 1.1 kg, P _0.001, respectively).
http://www.anabolicfitness.net/libra...lder%20men.pdf
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Evaluation of the Effects of Oxandrolone on Malnourished HIV-Positive Pediatric Patients
Sarah Fox-Wheeler, MSN*, Linda Heller, MS, RD, CSP*, Cathleen M. Salata, RN*, Francine Kaufman, MD , M. Louisa Loro, MD§, Vincente Gilsanz, MD§, Michael Haight, MD , Gwenn C. Umman, RN, PhD¶, Norman Barton, MD, PhD#, and Joseph A. Church, MD*
PEDIATRICS Vol. 104 No. 6 December 1999, p. e73
RESULTS:
...The rate of weight gain increased during treatment and was maintained after treatment. Linear growth continued and was maintained throughout treatment, whereas bone age did not increase significantly. Anthropometric assessments indicated an increase in muscle mass and a decrease in fat while patients were on treatment...
...Fat, as measured by TSF, was significantly decreased (M = .75 mm; P = .05).
http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...full/104/6/e73
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Effects of Androgen Therapy on Adipose Tissue and Metabolism in Older Men
E. Todd Schroeder, Ling Zheng, Michelle D. Ong, Carmen Martinez, Carla Flores, Yolanda Stewart, Colleen Azen and Fred R. Sattler
***artment of Medicine and Division of Infectious Diseases (E.T.S., F.R.S.), General Clinical Research Center, Keck School of Medicine (L.Z., C.M., C.F., Y.S., C.A., F.R.S.), and ***artment of Biokinesiology and Physical Therapy (E.T.S., M.D.O., F.R.S.), University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California 90033
RESULTS:
We investigated the effects of oxandrolone on regional fat compartments and markers of metabolism. Thirty-two 60- to 87-yr-old men (body mass index, 28.1 ± 3.4 kg/m2) were randomized to oxandrolone (20 mg/d; n = 20) or matching placebo (n = 12) treatment for 12 wk. Oxandrolone reduced total (–1.8 ± 1.0 kg; P < 0.001), trunk (–1.2 ± 0.6 kg; P < 0.001), and appendicular (–0.6 ± 0.6 kg; P < 0.001) fat, as determined by dual energy x-ray absorptiometry. The changes in total and trunk fat were greater (P < 0.001) than the changes with placebo.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/con...ull/89/10/4863
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