andriol/deca

[mega_660r]

I've been reading up on most of the posts on these products and havent really had all my questions answered. As i'm not exactly sure if i'm going about it the right way.

I'm 6'0" and 165 pounds with about 7-8% bf and good diet and training

I've got - 10 x 60 Andriol Testocaps (40mg each)
- 12 x 1ml Deca50 ampuls Organon
- 14 x 1ml Sus250 ampuls Organon

I want a mild first cycle with 10-12 pounds of quality muscle so I was thinking to run:

weeks 1-10 6-7 andriols ed after meals
weeks 5-10 100mg deca (and pct towards cycles end)

I thought this would be my best bet as am not to keen on sus and think this would be a quality cycle though have done some calcs and that much andriol equals almost 2000mgs a week. I think thats a bit too much as iam a first timer and would like minimal sides. Can anyone comment on what they think may be better or if im going wrong anywhere and can i achieve these goals given what i have. Open to any opinions......

[MBaraso]

IMO you're wasting your time w/ the A-caps.
Minimum:
Test 300mgs per week
Deca: 300mgs per week
pct, nolva, b6 etc...

Use the search button and research some more cycles.
Welcome to the board :-)

[mega_660r]

Thanks...

Yes I would agree with you though this is all i could really get and i may be able to get some some more deca but thats about it. I was thinking that the deca dose was a little too low though i didnt want to use that much...

[MBaraso]

Some ppl do well from a low dose, but "most" ppl that take AS for there first time aren't in that great of shape to begin with so when they try and skimp on dosages they're dissapointed with the end result.
My ideal dosage for the avg person (with a test/deca cycle) would be:
Test 500mgs per week
Deca 300mgs per week
Test run one week longer then deca.
Extended clomid, b6 throughout, nolva on hand etc...

[mega_660r]

Well ill definately have to try get more deca though i have to make do with what i have as AS arent as abundant for me as they seem to be for most ppl here.

[MBaraso]

U sure you're 7-8%? Whats your goal of taking a cycle?

[mega_660r]

More size to be in proportion..... I have a big head....

[MBaraso]

More size to be in proportion..... I have a big head....

So do I. If more size is you're goal....Spend you're $ at the grocery store while you're on.
You gotta eat to get big.
Goodluck,

[mega_660r]

Thanks,

though i still dont know if the cycle i posted with a bit more deca will suffice... Anyway thanks for the advice.....

[MBaraso]

How many andri caps do you have? They're 40mgs each?

[mega_660r]

600 and they reckon you need at least 6-7 to ed if not 10 to see results though having that much amounts to almost 2000mgs a week. Which is a lot i Believe but im not sure if they completely absorbed becuase they pass the liver and disolve in the lymphatic system. so the lack of absorbtion may be why you need so many though im not sure i dont know....

[MBaraso]

Well u have sus too so just figure out how much u need to reach 4-500mgs per week of test between both combined. Run it atleast 8 weeks along w/ the deca @300mgs per week for atleast 8 weeks.
Do some more research though before u start.
Goodluck,

[mega_660r]

Can I please get some more advise and opinions from anyone especially in regards to the andriol dosage?..........

[mega_660r]

bump

[marcus300]

If its your first cycle just stick with test only forget the rest of the other compounds, 500mg per wk for 10-12 wks

[mega_660r]

marcus your exactly the person i wanted to talk to though i have to leave if help you can help and kkep in contact it would be much appreciated because i know your the DON when it comes to this shit

[mega_660r]

is that 2 tabs per day?

[mega_660r]

6-7 ed = 2000mg approx

[marcus300]

First cycle stick with a injectable test only, theres no need to run andriol at this stage.

[mega_660r]

the andriol is the only test i have though.... and the sus i have is fake ive been told and there is not enough...

[marcus300]

the andriol is the only test i have though.... and the sus i have is fake ive been told and there is not enough...

I would order some injectable Test and do a standard first cycle and see how you respond to it. I personally like andriol but I wouldnt recommend it as a first cycle and it works alot better if you mix it with other compounds.

[mega_660r]

Would be difficult to order but why is it you wouldnt reccomend as a first cycle? I was thinking it would be a good combination with the deca. Was gonna start andriol at 6ed for 1-8 weeks then run deca 3-8 weeks..... No good?......

[marcus300]

You need to start with just test only for your first cycle, no other compounds. see how you respond to it and what gains you can achieve. andriol as to be taken every couple of hours to get the full benefit form it and alot of tabs daily so you would be better just using injectable test 2x shot per wk its far more simple to do.
If the a good solid base as been built for a few hard yrs training and eating you will respond very well no need for other compounds.

what are your stats?
how long have you been training?
age?

[mega_660r]

thanks for the advise..... 23 yo 6'0" 165 pounds 7-8%bf training for about 4 years though have been training properly for about 8-9 months with strict training and diet.... Its just its really hard to obtain anything else and i paid big bucks for this stuff..... I do understand that the andriol has to be taken strictly though i think im quite capable

[marcus300]

thanks for the advise..... 23 yo 6'0" 165 pounds 7-8%bf training for about 4 years though have been training properly for about 8-9 months with strict training and diet.... Its just its really hard to obtain anything else and i paid big bucks for this stuff..... I do understand that the andriol has to be taken strictly though i think im quite capable

If you have only been training properly for 8-9 months I wouldnt start a cycle yet, I would concentrate on your training program and research diets and build more musle naturally. In the mean time I track down injectable Test prob test e. there is no need to use something because you have it and you paid alot for it. if you going to do it do it correctly.

Trust me build a good solid base and all your goals will be achieved, dont just use something because you have it.

[mega_660r]

Thats true....... thanks...