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    ~gho5t's Bulker~

    I recently finished up a cutter, in which i was able to bring BF levels down to 7% and im still maintaining that as of now. Im very carb ***leted due to the recent cutter, and im hoping that a drastic change in diet, raising cals/carbs will cause a drastic increase in lbs.

    This will be my 7th cycle thus far, the compounds i have chosen for this proposed cycle is to be geared towards bulking.

    Main Cycle

    1-10 Test Suspension 150mg/ed (3 shots daily)
    1-8 NPP 150mg/ed
    1-6 Drol 50mg/ed

    PCT
    *Will be following Anthony Roberts PCT protocol*

    Peptides & HGH
    1-10 Slin (2iu with every meal -- 10iu post workout)
    1-10 IGF-1 (50mcg post workout)
    HGH 4iu/ed (have been running this dosage for the last 3 months and will continue throughout cycle and after)

    Compounds on hand
    Letro (on hand, and will run if needed at .5mg)
    T3 (on hand, and will run if needed)
    B-12 (on hand, and will run if any appetitie issues arise)

    Please review and provide suggestions and educated advice that you see deemed will help structure this cycle in a better way such as advice on dosages, durations, compounds, and any other aspect of the cycle.

    Regards,

    ~GHO5T~

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    I think you'll want to have something on hand to combat prolactin with that much NPP IMO. I don't have any first hand experience with susp so I can't comment on it myself but it looks like fun.

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    you love that susp, dont ya bud?

    sounds like a solid cycle bro, should defintely see some good weight gain...

    solid combination of aas and peptides, my only comment would be to possibly up the dose of GH for the duration of this cycle+pct...perhaps 6iu ED (7 days) for 15 weeks?

    also, cant comment on the slin dosages as i have yet to use it

    anyway, good luck & enjoy!

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    testisbest -- Ive ran NPP before and nothing arised regarding prolactin related issues. However thank you for the suggestion, i will deff keep it in mind.

    plzr8 -- Thanks for the suggestion bro, it could be beneficial to raise the HGH dosage as im trying to get everything i can out of the cycle. Ill look into it, again thanks, and yes suspension is my choice of test for bulkers, IMO its works very well in bulkers.

    ~GHO5T~

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    IGF often loses effectiveness after 5-7 weeks. 10 seems a bit long IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrNice
    IGF often loses effectiveness after 5-7 weeks. 10 seems a bit long IMO
    Thanks for the suggestion and heads up bro, appreciate it.

    However IGF+GH+Slin+AAS IMO are very synergetic when ran together, if i drop one of the compounds (IGF lets say) mid-way through the cycle. I will loose synergy and compromise slowing down or halting gains to a certain degree.

    I will look into this further though, thanks for bringing it up bro.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Test Susp converts to estrogen heavily, more so than any other testosterone. NPP will raise levels of prolactin/progesterone and Androl will activate the ER but not via aromotase. Estrogen may will become a problem here.

    An AI may not be a bad idea at all. Neither would HCG to maintian testicular size/function.

    Thats a lot of injections in that cycle, daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Test Susp converts to estrogen heavily, more so than any other testosterone. NPP will raise levels of prolactin/progesterone and Androl will activate the ER but not via aromotase. Estrogen may will become a problem here.

    An AI may not be a bad idea at all. Neither would HCG to maintian testicular size/function.

    Thats a lot of injections in that cycle, daily.
    Hey bro,

    Thanks for the input, greatly appreciated.

    I have ran suspension and NPP before and from suspension estrogen related side effects were low, an increase in bf was however noticable (might of been becasue of diet as i was bulking). NPP sides werent noticable as i didnt experience much.

    I do have Letro and T3 on hand, if estrogen does become a problem or bf levels rise too high i will run them.

    I didnt think about HCG, would you think running the compound throughout the entirety of the cycle will be beneficial or maybe just start 2 weeks prior to PCT start time and run throughout PCT.

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    Your using Progestins, I'd use HCG at a low frequent dose of about 125-250ius every 3-4 days. Then again for PCT.

    Have you used Anadrol before? I'm guessing no, due to your low(ish) dose?

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    personally i'd drop the test to TRT dosage.
    slin has really never done anything special for me.
    whats purpose of the GH? if its for LBM gains ur gunna need to atleast triple the dosage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Your using Progestins, I'd use HCG at a low frequent dose of about 125-250ius every 3-4 days. Then again for PCT.

    Have you used Anadrol before? I'm guessing no, due to your low(ish) dose?
    Thanks for the advice on the HCG bro, and yeah ive ran Drol before, ive found that 50mg is a good dosage for me, sides are low but gains are high.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    personally i'd drop the test to TRT dosage.
    slin has really never done anything special for me.
    whats purpose of the GH? if its for LBM gains ur gunna need to atleast triple the dosage.
    Thanks tai, however suspension has given me great lbs gains in the past but ill deff consider your advice and keep it in mind.

    Its my first go with slin, so ill see if it does much if anything for me in this cycle.

    Ive used GH for the last 3-4 months at around 4-5ius/ed and it has kept bf levels in check, more than i expected. Im using the compound for this purpose, but i might raise the dosage a little.

    Thanks thus far guys,

    ~GHO5T~

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    Thanks tai, however suspension has given me great lbs gains in the past but ill deff consider your advice and keep it in mind.

    Its my first go with slin, so ill see if it does much if anything for me in this cycle.

    Ive used GH for the last 3-4 months at around 4-5ius/ed and it has kept bf levels in check, more than i expected. Im using the compound for this purpose, but i might raise the dosage a little.

    Thanks thus far guys,

    ~GHO5T~
    aye, GH is great for maintaining a leaner physique while bulking but the big misconception is when people think its going to GROW new muscle cells and what not.. ur looking at atleast 16-24iu ED to even get close to attaining LBM growth.. but for injury recovery 12iu ED for bout 3months is really effective.

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    What would you guys think about the addition of EQ Prop into this cycle.

    Ive never used the compound, so im looking for some feedback from users who have experience with the compound.

    If i do incorporate the compound into this cycle it will be dosed at 100mg/ed for the entirety of the cycle.

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    Heard its painful as hell, will make you feel flu-ey and shit too.

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    Whatever choices you make for the cycle I'm sure you will make the right ones.

    Good luck with the cycle.

    Respect,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrpskn
    Whatever choices you make for the cycle I'm sure you will make the right ones.

    Good luck with the cycle.

    Respect,
    Thanks for the words of encouragement bro, and long time no see, hows it going?

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    The wife and I just got back from a 2 week tropical getaway...It was great.

    That's why I was absent from the board(s) the last few weeks...

    As always, it's good to be back.

    Again, good luck with the cycle GHO5T...any questions? I'm just a hop and a click away.

    Respect,

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    Glad your back, we can all benefit from the knowledge you bring to the board.

    Ill be in touch bro.

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    why not tren instead of prop? also watch out for abcess with suspesion, it will give the worst abcess you have ever seen in your life. If you seen that lee priest pic where his shoulder has a gaping hole in it. Thats what test suspension does if an abcess happens, I had a friend of mine take suspension swaped needles after loading and shot, it put a golf ball size hole in him and ate the muscle. I Personally stay away from it. But I just don't want you to forget about the sever draw backs of suspension if your not super careful good luck!

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    btw EQ is weak, not worth the money.

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    sorry to spam but, why cant you make gains of 4ius a day??? I never seen anyone do the amounts tai suggested, you have to be able to make some nice muscle gains at 6ius at most right? (regarding HGH)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoder
    sorry to spam but, why cant you make gains of 4ius a day??? I never seen anyone do the amounts tai suggested, you have to be able to make some nice muscle gains at 6ius at most right? (regarding HGH)
    go read some studise pinnacle posted on GH..
    even at super high doses the LBM gains achieved from GH were not muscle but other type of cells like organ/connective tissue stuff.. pretty interesting.
    he was a GH einstine and he said anything under 12iu is POINTLESS from a BB'in perspective.

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    I would agree with that. I have ran HGH up to and slightly over 20iu ED and even then the gains are nothing special. If you are going to continue using it you may want to consider increasing the does considerably. Especially during PCT I find it is decent for holding gains. Also keeping the slin in there for PCT.

    As for EQ, I have never used it but hear that it is a weak compound and not worth it but the gains made from it however small are said to be of high quality muscle. It does cause a considerable increase in apatite that maybe welcome when bulking but if you have B-12 that’s not a problem. Also isn’t it a long ester? If you do decide to run this you would be advised to front load.

    It looks like a pretty solid cycle to me but I would have to agree with some of the other guys in recommending running an anti-estrogen through out the cycle. Prevention is better than cure and you won’t be taking away from your gains so I’d start using letro from the start.

    Good luck with your cycle mate and let us know how it goes. I’d be interested to see before and after pics if you don’t mind posting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoder
    why not tren instead of prop? also watch out for abcess with suspesion, it will give the worst abcess you have ever seen in your life. If you seen that lee priest pic where his shoulder has a gaping hole in it. Thats what test suspension does if an abcess happens, I had a friend of mine take suspension swaped needles after loading and shot, it put a golf ball size hole in him and ate the muscle. I Personally stay away from it. But I just don't want you to forget about the sever draw backs of suspension if your not super careful good luck!
    Hey bro, thanks for the heads up and the suggestions i will keep them in mind.

    Im not running tren due to me already having a 19-nor compound in my cycle (NPP), and running both (tren+deca) can make things a little complicated.

    Also IMO the cycle is more synergetic with a Test (test suspension), 19-Nor (NPP) and a DHT (Drol), since i will be getting the characteristics and attributes of 3 AAS families.

    Ive ran suspension a couple times before and honestly i find it much more easier to administer than other forms of Test, especially prop.

    The suspension i usually obtain is oil based and ive noticed this form to be much more effective than water based, as pain and sting is not an issue with oil based, injections are very smooth and pain free.

    However i will follow correct injection protocols as always, and take all the necessary precautions when injecting and after. This should reduce the chance for abcess greatly.

    I do appreciate your suggestions, and thanks for looking out bro. Ill deff keep your advice in mind during cycle.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoder
    why not tren instead of prop? also watch out for abcess with suspesion, it will give the worst abcess you have ever seen in your life.
    suspension isn't gonna give you a worse abscess than any other gear.

    Its not ***endent on the compound

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrNice
    suspension isn't gonna give you a worse abscess than any other gear.

    Its not ***endent on the compound

    WRONG! you want pictures of proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoder
    WRONG! you want pictures of proof?
    Maybe someone did get a REALLY bad infection from suspension.

    I'm sure another guy could show you the equally bad infection he got from something else.

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    hey bro maybe look into some 1-test cyp instead of the eq?i've heard great thingds about it!i've yet to try it but have some for a future cycle.also 1-test ya could shoot ed don't let the cyp factor in it fool ya people say to treat it as a short ester...repped

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    I would throw in some eq for the hell of it. I think it is either hit or miss with eq, some people don't get anything from it, some have great results.

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    just was looking it all over again, will you be pinning yourself 8 or 9 times a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reppedout1
    hey bro maybe look into some 1-test cyp instead of the eq?i've heard great thingds about it!i've yet to try it but have some for a future cycle.also 1-test ya could shoot ed don't let the cyp factor in it fool ya people say to treat it as a short ester...repped
    aye way better than eq

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, greatly appreciated.

    Ive discussed the issue with some close bros, and have come to the conclusion to exclude EQ from this cycle. Reason being, i believe that i have enough compound(s) to make sufficient gains and reach my goal for the cycle.

    Adding any other compound(s) to this cycle IMO wouldnt be as beneficial as i recently thought so, so i will be running the cycle as originally planned, of course changes will be made accordingly as the cycle progresses.

    ~GHO5T~

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzr8
    just was looking it all over again, will you be pinning yourself 8 or 9 times a day?
    Total injections for this cycle will come out to roughly 12-13 ***ending on whether it is a workout day or off day.

    Most of the injections will come from the administration of Slin (7 on workout days, 6 on non-workout days).

    Im not concerned with the high volume of injections this cycle will require, as most of the injections are with the use of Slin Pins, which are very easy to administer and are not time consuming and pain free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    Total injections for this cycle will come out to roughly 12-13 ***ending on whether it is a workout day or off day.

    Most of the injections will come from the administration of Slin (7 on workout days, 6 on non-workout days).

    Im not concerned with the high volume of injections this cycle will require, as most of the injections are with the use of Slin Pins, which are very easy to administer and are not time consuming and pain free.

    ~GHO5T~
    yeah slin pins aintk nuffin..
    in my 2nd to last big go of aas i was doing 3x 4ml Oil injections per day and that was ANNOYING AS HELL..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    yeah slin pins aintk nuffin..
    in my 2nd to last big go of aas i was doing 3x 4ml Oil injections per day and that was ANNOYING AS HELL..
    Just curious Tai, is there an AAS compound you havent tried lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    I recently finished up a cutter, in which i was able to bring BF levels down to 7% and im still maintaining that as of now.

    ~GHO5T~
    WOW bro.. .that is excellent!! Good work! I have always struggled to keep my bodyfat low due to my endomorphic composition. It's certainly not an excuse but it is indeed harder to keep bodyfat low throughout the year IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    Just curious Tai, is there an AAS compound you havent tried lol.

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    yeah one.. lol the one CaptDom is running- MT.. i have no need to poop out any organs yet lol
    ima watch him see how long he lives.. then i might give it a whirl at a good dose or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    yeah one.. lol the one CaptDom is running- MT.. i have no need to poop out any organs yet lol
    ima watch him see how long he lives.. then i might give it a whirl at a good dose or so.
    Furazabol ????? I know you have not used this great AAS.Going to blaze this for 10 weeks in my comt cutter,at 0.25 G.A little extreme but going to show pinn that you dont loose muscle cutting from 13% !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Furazabol ????? I know you have not used this great AAS.Going to blaze this for 10 weeks in my comt cutter,at 0.25 G.A little extreme but going to show pinn that you dont loose muscle cutting from 13% !!!
    Hey goose, have you ran this compound before? If so, what were your conclusions and results?

    ~GHO5T~

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