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    5ml Sachets (horriable experience)

    I would like to kno if anybody has ever had a similar experience. I received my gear and put all of it into vials. i had tren a and test prop and I filled up 2 tips with 3 ml each and was going to stack and I injected into each quad tren in the left and prop in the other (in the quad near the knee) The injection was not terribly painful but a bit harsher then any pharma I hav used. The next morning I wake up and have a terrible cold sweat and Both my quads are unbelievably painful, I can only shuffle aling and cant go up or down stairs and I cannot bend my legs for the life of me. So after I wake up I am having cold sweat and I cant walk, so I go to try to get something to drink and I go to the fridge and get something and then I walk about 5 steps and get that vertigo but not like when you stand up, I had my eyes open and then everything got blurry and then black and then I fell to the ground and smashed my face on the floor and must have passed out for a couple seconds and then I come to on the floor with my entire body in an uncontrollable shaking (I had a freaking seizure) This is no bullshit I dont know what was in the 5ml sachets but maybe too much ba or something, but I cant figure out why I passed out and why I couldnt walk for 5 days. I would like people to think twice before going this route, also if anybody can help figure out what the hell could cause this I would appreciate it.

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    What we need to know is where did you get the sachets from? Not because I need anything but we need to know so none of us use this supplier! Sachets themselves are not a bad idea, its the supplier and the lab he gets his oils from that is bad. Sorry to hear about your experience, but please, at least let a mod know where you got them from and if you can, go to an open board and let everyone in our community who we need to stay away from. You could literally be saving some poor guys life! Its unbelieveable the things our STUPID goverment does that forces us to go this route. Im willing to bet more people have died or have had serious health problems from using unsterile gear than before the ban went into place and you could get pharm grade stuff all the time!

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    i don't trust sachets at all. It's hard enough trusting UGL's as it is. My concern with Sachets is the equipment used to make them. What are the chances that they were once used for food processing? I imagine that the UGL'ers could get a good deal on one at a auction or something. Something just doesn't sit right about the sachets with me... I just don't know what it is.

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    This is surprising. I have not heard of problems with the 5ml , just the 3 ml. High ba causes pain. But what you went through seems as though it was something else.

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    I have read lots of problems with the 5ml sashets but the 20ml sachets seem to be a lot more reliable. I think they all come from the same source as well. There have been many issues posted on the board in the past about these things. Be very careful guys

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    I had to ditch my 5ml sachets. too fukkin painful

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    I was probably the first person to ever use sachets...SuperTest and Masteron ...I didn't have any problems, but I know others say they've had injection pain.

    The stuff you're talking about...that sounds like something unrelated...it's really off the radar for steroid related sides...

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    ^would agree with AR here. Go see a doc. That does not sound like it is AS related.

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    We certainly can not indict all UGL's for their use of Sachets, can we? I have had 0 problems with my source (pain or otherwise).

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    Maybe i read it wrong but maybe it was a reaction because you injected 6ml worth of gear at 1 time. What mg/ml is the stuff because tren has ruff sides and you took a lot of it at once. Especially since the stuff you injected is done ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theatrix
    We certainly can not indict all UGL's for their use of Sachets, can we? I have had 0 problems with my source (pain or otherwise).
    I wouldn't inject those things if they were given to me. There is no reason to use sachets. A source who knows how to pack doesn't need to put stuff in sachets. I here more stories of sachets being seized then amps and vials from real sources

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    Mg/ml

    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I wouldn't inject those things if they were given to me. There is no reason to use sachets. A source who knows how to pack doesn't need to put stuff in sachets. I here more stories of sachets being seized then amps and vials from real sources
    The tren was 75 mg/ml and the prop was 100 and 3 ml of each into each quad, I have only ever done pharma grade and have had some injection pain but not swelling and pain that is incapacitating I think it made my blood pressure dangerously high cause i kept blacking out, I only did those 2 first injections on day 1 and stopped also I got the sachets from a reputable supplier that you all kno AL I am not trying to bad mouth him, just had a bad experience with the sachets never with pharma gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon0489
    The tren was 75 mg/ml and the prop was 100 and 3 ml of each into each quad, I have only ever done pharma grade and have had some injection pain but not swelling and pain that is incapacitating I think it made my blood pressure dangerously high cause i kept blacking out also I got the sachets from a reputable supplier that you all kno AL I am not trying to bad mouth him, just had a bad experience with the sachets never with pharma gear.
    I hate sachets. But i think part of the problem is you injected way to much stuff

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    just did a shot with a 5ml sachet of masteron . Painless and no problems at all. Not al sachets are bad!

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    check your B.P. Also sachets have high BA because there are a lot of users that don't swab the packs and don't use aseptic techniques with these things. I know that the prop can be painful as it is but with more BA, well u know how it is. U said you injected 3ml of the prop in your thigh near the knee, 3ml is gonna be painfull definatly but anywhere near the knee is incorrect, that would definatly explain swelling. Read up on injection spots and techniques.

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    I am using sachets right now but I tranferred all of it to sterile vials and have had no problems. A little soreness but no more than a minor muscle cramp.

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    dude u shot 3cc's of prop right? of course that shit is gonna hurt! that's all most people on here say about prop....it hurts! i just finished a 17 weeker with 5ml. sachets. test e, eq, masteron . test blood levels were 6200. i couldnt be happier with the sachets. great price. the only thing sucks is the wait. shoot that shit in your glutes.

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    tren e and test e from the 5ml type been on for 8 almost 9 wks no problems the tren has a bite to it but otherwise no diffrent than any other gear ive used

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon0489
    I would like to kno if anybody has ever had a similar experience. I received my gear and put all of it into vials. i had tren a and test prop and I filled up 2 tips with 3 ml each and was going to stack and I injected into each quad tren in the left and prop in the other (in the quad near the knee) The injection was not terribly painful but a bit harsher then any pharma I hav used. The next morning I wake up and have a terrible cold sweat and Both my quads are unbelievably painful, I can only shuffle aling and cant go up or down stairs and I cannot bend my legs for the life of me. So after I wake up I am having cold sweat and I cant walk, so I go to try to get something to drink and I go to the fridge and get something and then I walk about 5 steps and get that vertigo but not like when you stand up, I had my eyes open and then everything got blurry and then black and then I fell to the ground and smashed my face on the floor and must have passed out for a couple seconds and then I come to on the floor with my entire body in an uncontrollable shaking (I had a freaking seizure) This is no bullshit I dont know what was in the 5ml sachets but maybe too much ba or something, but I cant figure out why I passed out and why I couldnt walk for 5 days. I would like people to think twice before going this route, also if anybody can help figure out what the hell could cause this I would appreciate it.
    A lot of time people who have your kind of experience is because their mindset is that their injecting unprescribed chemical into their body. And it thus reversed their psychology and expectation with worst case scenarios. The best way to do AAS is research about the chemical u are about to inject and its side-effects affront and know what supplements to use to deal with it.

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    sounds lke u injected way too much in the wrong spot... down by the knee is too far down and the wrong spot for that much gear... higher in the quad is where u gotta put it.... research inject sites

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    Be careful bro! it's better if you do some blood work before you continue with anything, just in case there is something wrong with you here.

    Also check with your source to see if they've had similar complaints, at least so they can be aware too.

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    How mant times have you shot that much prop, seems like quite abit for the first shot, I like to let my body get used to prop, kinda building up an resistance. After a few weeks the shots dont hurt anymore.

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    Also Ive never had any luck with prop blends, atleast not when prop was 75mg+ per ml.

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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon0489
    I would like to kno if anybody has ever had a similar experience. I received my gear and put all of it into vials. i had tren a and test prop and I filled up 2 tips with 3 ml each and was going to stack and I injected into each quad tren in the left and prop in the other (in the quad near the knee) .
    That is your problem. Holy sheet. Three grams into your lower quad. Ouch!

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    these sachets are bad news in my opinion. I have heard few and far between that have had good luck wit them! There was a post here yesterday I think about them as well. I agree with juicy brucy as well. I bet the packaging equipment was probably used for god knows what previoulsy. They figure they wipe it down with a little rubbing alcohal and all is fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by znak
    That is your problem. Holy sheet. Three grams into your lower quad. Ouch!
    OMG I missed that.

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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

    Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html


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    i used the 5ml test e sachets when they first came out. they are a great idea, the gear is legit, but i had bad post injection swelling and soreness. never again for me.

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    dont mess with the 3 or 5 ml satchets. the 20ml ones are the best and most reliable supplier. high quality stuff and no pain

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    I see everyone make this mistake, so often, they get some possibly dodgy gear (in satchets or vials) from someone they have never used (and probably have had complaints on boards everywhere), and they inject their 4cc stack right into their body... And wonder why they are almost dying... Why not test out 1/2 a cc or 1/4 a cc and see if it makes you ill first... Not that I would even touch sachets with a barge pole, id rather have a few siezed packages than endanger my life...

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    This is crazy stuff. I just ordered some 5ml satches from my source of super test and some 20ml satches of Deca .... No you guy's are freakin me out! All I heard about on my sources board was how great the satchets were and that they never are siezed... crap! This sucks......

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybambam
    This is crazy stuff. I just ordered some 5ml satches from my source of super test and some 20ml satches of Deca.... No you guy's are freakin me out! All I heard about on my sources board was how great the satchets were and that they never are siezed... crap! This sucks......
    maybee they were trying to sell u something,lol,
    in response to the original poster it sounds like u were frontloading with those doses which is silly/not necesary with prop and tren ace and if that wasnt the case u need to do more research my friend cause thtas insane dosing of those compounds IMO

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    I've never used satchets before, but it'd make sence to me to run it all through a filter before putting it in a muscle. I'm a freak about filtering though.

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    sachets just suck period... you have to trasnfer them and then into sterile vials and its just not worth it

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    yeah quality control for the satchets, so new I don't know about them yet..But Tren is a tough steroid . If it were overdosed or contaminated that could have done it. ALso tren and blood pressure. If you have pre- existing blood pressure issues.

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    I agree, its standard these days to filter sachets before injecting them, I assumed you alraedy had...

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    i didnt have any problems with the 5ml satchets. the prop hurt a bit but only in my quads.

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    satchets suck and the source that sells them is a f ing joke...

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    I've had great success with 5ml sachets, but I guess it's a gamble. I would never shoot 3ml into my lower quad regardless of the source however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
    I've had great success with 5ml sachets, but I guess it's a gamble. I would never shoot 3ml into my lower quad regardless of the source however.
    Sachets are good.. just painfull...
    and I ALWAYS filter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pewntang
    satchets suck and the source that sells them is a f ing joke...
    im not trying to start anything with you but have you tried the satchets? i know there were some problems with the source that i heard about after i bought them. supposedly had to do with him possibly selling fake gear maybe? im not sure but it also was maybe the same time the company switched from a partnership to a single owner. i didnt have any problem at all other than it took me a month to get it because of the shipping process, which i was warned of in advance.

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