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    when shall i detox

    hello i am new to this forum and just wanted to ask a question. i have been on gear for about 3 month now. my first ever course which was deca noirmanate and my 2nd which i am finishing now which is sustanon 250 i am goin on testaviron next my dealer has got some in and i was wondering should i detox after ive finished my sustanon or after my testaviron i am finishing hte steroids after the testaviron thanks in advance for answers
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    Welcome to AR. You should post more details about your cycle. I assume you mean your finishing your cycle and want to know how long before you start your next cycle. The rule of thumb is time on = time off. What is your PCT and how long?

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    whatdose your pct look like

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    i dont know what you mean by that i know it means post cycle therapy but dont know what you mean and i was just wondering if you think i should have hcg after my 20ml course of sustanon and bear in mind i had a 20 ml course of deca before that to or shall i just wait till i finish my testaviron sorry if im going in the wrong direction but i am fair new to this

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    as soon as i finishe dmy deca i went straight on to sust

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    i dont know what you mean by that i know it means post cycle therapy but dont know what you mean and i was just wondering if you think i should have hcg after my 20ml course of sustanon and bear in mind i had a 20 ml course of deca before that to or shall i just wait till i finish my testaviron sorry if im going in the wrong direction but i am fair new to this
    I suggest before you do anything else you research as much as you can, you can find most answers right here in AR. Look up PCT, and research each compound you have done. If you come across something you don't understand then start a thread and ask that question.

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    How long did you run the deca and how long have you been running the sust? Sounds like a shitty way to cycle to me. If you have been on for 12 weeks already you should run a pct for 4 weeks then take 3 months off before going back on any gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog-Slime
    How long did you run the deca and how long have you been running the sust? Sounds like a shitty way to cycle to me. If you have been on for 12 weeks already you should run a pct for 4 weeks then take 3 months off before going back on any gear.
    i had that for 5 week then moved straigh on to the sust and now i am on the sust and i am stopping steroids after the testaviron which i am going on next will it be worth detoxing for that

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    Bro,

    You are completely lost, and so lost that you can't give us any info on your cycle. Like stated before, go do some research before you hurt yourself.

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    whats detox, you doing crack & test with that, LOL im just kidding, research bro, look under steriod profiles and see about deca & sust.

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    right

    start:
    6 week 4ml of deca every week

    finished course
    straigh onto sust
    sustanon 250
    4ml every week
    2ml on wednesday
    2ml on sunday
    currently still on the sust i was wondering if i should detox after i have finished this course of sust or would it be ok for me to have a course of testaviron then detox after that

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    wow youre completely confused on how to run steroids correctly and safely. I suggest you learn what proper PCT is and come off steroids for a while until you properly recover and learn how to run them correctly. You just dont go take x cc's of this and then x cc's of that and then just stop cause you will be messed up for a long time. Steroid users do PCT, drug addicts (crack, x, blow, etc) go through detox!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    right

    start:
    6 week 4ml of deca every week

    finished course
    straigh onto sust
    sustanon 250
    4ml every week
    2ml on wednesday
    2ml on sunday
    currently still on the sust i was wondering if i should detox after i have finished this course of sust or would it be ok for me to have a course of testaviron then detox after that
    do NOT measure how many ml's or cc's you take per week, you need to know the concentration (i.e sust is usually 250mg/ml). Wait 18 days after your last shot of sust and start clomid/nolva therapy. Its called PCT (post cycle therapy )

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    wow youre completely confused on how to run steroids correctly and safely. I suggest you learn what proper PCT is and come off steroids for a while until you properly recover and learn how to run them correctly. You just dont go take x cc's of this and then x cc's of that and then just stop cause you will be messed up for a long time. Steroid users do PCT, drug addicts (crack, x, blow, etc) go through detox!! lol
    R u tellin me you ran 4ml as in 300mg a week thats 1200mg a week your gonna lose your nuts bro. im not kidding either
    you cant go by ML you have to go buy how many milligrams are in each ML
    add it up you shoulnt do over 400mg a week on deca and sust. at your stage take only 2 a week til done then run pct save testiviron for next time

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    lol @ this cycle.

    WHat have you gained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second2None
    R u tellin me you ran 4ml as in 300mg a week thats 1200mg a week your gonna lose your nuts bro. im not kidding either
    you cant go by ML you have to go buy how many milligrams are in each ML
    add it up you shoulnt do over 400mg a week on deca and sust. at your stage take only 2 a week til done then run pct save testiviron for next time
    could be 100mg/ml...probably 100mg/ml in fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrNice
    could be 100mg/ml...probably 100mg/ml in fact
    hope so

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    right thers 250mg of testaz in 1 vial i have 4 of them a week

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    so i shouldnt be even having 500 a week

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    [QUOTE=MrNice]lol @ this cycle.

    WHat have you gained?[/]
    bulked up a fair bit

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    wow ur on a gram a week?


    this is a terrible cycle bro.

    How much in pounds have you gained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    so i shouldnt be even having 500 a week
    so you r only doing 1 a week of 250mg??????????

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    should i not be on a gram a week seriously i have not done any research at all just been listening to my supplier

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    no im on 4 250mg vials a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    should i not be on a gram a week seriously i have not done any research at all just been listening to my supplier
    do NOT listen to your supplier, he is just telling you stuff so you will buy more gear from him. Ask him for some nolvadex and clomid and then do a proper PCT otherwise your body will be messed up and I hope you dont enjoy sex cause you wont be having it for a while if you dont do PCT!!

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    im lost are you doing 4 amps per week or 1 amp for week
    whats your stats and goal?????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    should i not be on a gram a week seriously i have not done any research at all just been listening to my supplier
    there is no reason for you to be running a gram/wk either!!!

    Just curious what are you stats? age, height, weight, training history, diet, etc?

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    im doing 4 amps per week and i am wei***ng about 175 pound

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    a gram a week is for experienced users my friend.

    I know BIG guys who don't run a gram a week.

    Your supplier has been making money off you.

    What you should do is: drop the injections down to 2 a week. Thats 500mg/wk. Perfect for a first cycle. Run it til you've been on for 12 weeks.

    Order some Nolva and Clomid you can order them by clicking on the blue names

    Run a PCT, starting 2 weeks after you finish injecting.

    Then do lots of research before you try another cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    do NOT listen to your supplier, he is just telling you stuff so you will buy more gear from him. Ask him for some nolvadex and clomid and then do a proper PCT otherwise your body will be messed up and I hope you dont enjoy sex cause you wont be having it for a while if you dont do PCT!!
    your right hes even got me lost stop now and get pct
    but my guess if hes dumb enough to start in this shape hes probaly not smart enough to stop. LOL beareful bro couple of my buddies jumped in gear head first like they had to see doctors to straighten them to out
    research bro dont listen to your supplier

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    diet 6 meals day all meats and fish with vegetables
    trainiung for about a year
    height 6'1
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    weight 175 lb
    Last edited by jack_t; 06-12-2007 at 03:45 PM.

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    really seriously thank you for helping me with this if i wouldnt of posted this a would of been ****ed up and having a gram a week thanks

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    how tall are you? how long have you been training? What was your stating weight? What does your diet consist of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    diet 6 meals day all meats and fish with vegetables
    trainiung for about a year
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    whats the mg on your deca ??? 100mg , 200 md or 300 mg

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    deca was my first course an i had 500 mg a week

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    Age 19, stop altogether. You should not even be doing gear, you are going to mess up your body for the long run.

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    A little young to be experimenting with AAS, and too small to start. What's your hurry, training for sports or some type of competition?



    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    height 6'1
    age 19
    weight 175 lb

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_t
    deca was my first course an i had 500 mg a week
    not to bad but thats for exp. users but you cant fix tha now so i would only do 500mg a week on test or otherwise your gonna **** your self up,

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    ok thanks after this course i am stopping alltogether stupid idea anyway

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