Feeling like a little crybaby bitch MID CYCLE!!!!!

[bor]

OK so wassup with this, i've felt agression and everything but this is new!

The cycle is prop 200mg E2D, tren e 400 mg E4D, and proviron (25mg in the morning and 25 mg in the evening),ECA....tapering off the t3 , done with the oral winny which was 50 mg ED for a month....

I'm about mid cycle, everything is kicked in, felt like superman, James Bond, Superman, you name it, I could kick their a$$ and fvck their girl...

Now I'm opsessing about this girl which has a new guy (a girl I lready left twice by the way), feeling like a girl, ***ressed, blah blah....

I think the only reason for this could be my esotrgen is too high and the proviron ain't helping - do you agree? My nolvadex will be in tommorow or the next day - hope I don't dehydrate from all the crying till then

Used to wanna hump any girl, still horny, but I only want this one, and you have to understand I ALREADY LEFT HER! TWICE! Once a year ago, then we tried again then I left her AGAIN! I know she's not the right one for me but I can't help feeling girly! I don't even check out other girls - on cycle for christ sake!

SO do we agree - estrogen?

Up the proviron?

Add the nolva?

Get my vagina removed?

[vitor]

Its probaly estrogen,
and nolva will not decrease estrogen levels.

Either increase the Proviron dosage 3x atleast, or get an stronger AI.

[Panzerfaust]

SO do we agree - estrogen?

Up the proviron?

Add the nolva?

Get my vagina removed?

Bingo!

[bor]

Its probaly estrogen,
and nolva will not decrease estrogen levels.

Either increase the Proviron dosage 3x atleast, or get an stronger AI.

Nolva wont decrease estrogen?!?!?

What AI would you suggest?

Or how much proviron would you suggest?

[bor]

But we deff agree its estrogen right?

Taking prozac mid cycle doesn't sound too wise.....

[ironaddict69]

DO NOT. start an anti dperessent because of this.
slow down and get ahold of yourself. its most likely estrogen how many weeks in are you?

[RA]

It is estrogen you big girl

Small dose of nolva would be sufficient. Especially if your already taking proviron.

[Panzerfaust]

Try Aromasin if you can get your hands on some.

[vitor]

Nolva wont decrease estrogen?!?!?

What AI would you suggest?

Or how much proviron would you suggest?

Nolva is sorta an synthetic estrogen that will bind to the E-recepter in certain places, and block curculating estrogen from getting thrue there. But estrogen levels will not decrease.
Nolva and Clomid(especially) will often make you more girle-sensitive

An AI will solve the problem of high estrogen levels by inhibiting aromatase. I would use aromasin 25mg a/day.

[nap]

i always cry on tren or go mad on tren,just someting it does to me and it cant be the estrogen or i woukd be winging and moaning like a woman. last stint on tren i started to cry at bambi like my little niece.lol.. :

[Joemeek]

slow down and get ahold of yourself.

LOL... give yourself a good shake man, are you sure you're telling us everything....have you been watching Titanic again ?

[bor]

DO NOT. start an anti dperessent because of this.
slow down and get ahold of yourself. its most likely estrogen how many weeks in are you?

yeah i agree.......about 6-7 weeks

[bor]

It is estrogen you big girl

Small dose of nolva would be sufficient. Especially if your already taking proviron.

cool thanks

[ironaddict69]

hmm. i actually feel bad when my estrogen isnt towards the top of the range, but maybe yours is off the chart.

[taiboxa]

been there done that
drop test down to 25-50mg per day if its prop.. and KEEP THE SHIT as stable as possible..
i only have weird moods/moodswings when i dont keep test as stable as possible.. all other aas dont affect my mood/aggress/homoismness..

so switch to everdy 25mg prop stay for a week then go back to EoD and see what happens when u keep it at a lower dose.

[bor]

been there done that
drop test down to 25-50mg per day if its prop.. and KEEP THE SHIT as stable as possible..
i only have weird moods/moodswings when i dont keep test as stable as possible.. all other aas dont affect my mood/aggress/homoismness..

so switch to everdy 25mg prop stay for a week then go back to EoD and see what happens when u keep it at a lower dose.

but then my tren would be 2 times higher then my test?

[bor]

OK all I could get is nolva? how much nolva and proviron do i take? 2 doses also?

- i took 75 mg of proviron b44 sleep and in the morning, and now mid day 20 mg of nolva seems like i'l feelin' better already

[RA]

OK all I could get is nolva? how much nolva and proviron do i take? 2 doses also?

- i took 75 mg of proviron b44 sleep and in the morning, and now mid day 20 mg of nolva seems like i'l feelin' better already

Yeah, I was going to say take 10mgs of nolva/75 proviron and see how you feel, then bump it if necessary.

[bor]

OK here I am! HAPPY AND WITH A HARD ON!

I took 75 mg of proviron and 20 mg on nolva this morning (10 hours ago).....also took the triple dose of proviron last night.......obviously the nolva was what I was missing because I noticed Changes in my mood 2-3 hours later, jerked off like 5 times since then.....and its not a placebo thing either, trust me.

From now on I'm gonna come back to my normal proviron dose (25 mg in the morning and at night) and add 10 mg of nolva to both doses of proviron!

Maybe I'll still do 20 mg of nolva tonight...just to be safe.....and start with the new schedule tommorow.....

Thank you all for your help

[K.Biz]

OK here I am! HAPPY AND WITH A HARD ON!

I took 75 mg of proviron and 20 mg on nolva this morning (10 hours ago).....also took the triple dose of proviron last night.......obviously the nolva was what I was missing because I noticed Changes in my mood 2-3 hours later, jerked off like 5 times since then.....and its not a placebo thing either, trust me.

From now on I'm gonna come back to my normal proviron dose (25 mg in the morning and at night) and add 10 mg of nolva to both doses of proviron!

Maybe I'll still do 20 mg of nolva tonight...just to be safe.....and start with the new schedule tommorow.....

Thank you all for your help

always good to hear. have fun bro.

K.biz

[bor]

Thanks bro

Funny how small things can have a huge impact...

[Maxim1056]

dunno if this would help but a buddy of mine takes the hebral supplement st johns wart when he cycles, says it evens out his mood throughout. Just throwing it out there.

[J-41-sd]

never had an estrogen problem with 25mg of proviron a day, but tren can keep me up and sweating all night long which leads to me being in a bad mood, also when your hormones are all jacked and you feel like superman feeling rejection seems to be more personal because you think "what the hell is wrong with this chick doesn't she realize I'm the sh** what's up her ass! that and it makes me more competitive so I want what I can't have because I think I can get whatever I want (superman complex) anyway good luck her losing out not you.

[bor]

never had an estrogen problem with 25mg of proviron a day, but tren can keep me up and sweating all night long which leads to me being in a bad mood, also when your hormones are all jacked and you feel like superman feeling rejection seems to be more personal because you think "what the hell is wrong with this chick doesn't she realize I'm the sh** what's up her ass! that and it makes me more competitive so I want what I can't have because I think I can get whatever I want (superman complex) anyway good luck her losing out not you.

That makes a lot of sense...........not in this case, but its a long story, with a long history, blah blah don't wanna bother you bros with it....

[bor]

I just wanna thank you all again for helping me! I went from superman to crackwhore to superman I am amazed how such a little tweak could make such a big diff....I wonder if it will do something for me visually....

[bor]

Really shows the spirit of the board its starting to be what it used to be, a "comradery" if you know what I mean....

[drewvox]

Three things.

1) Tai just coined the phrase "homoismness".
2) The number of times you flogged your dolphin is an overshare.
3) Glad to hear your moods are back in order bro.

Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going to watch The Notebook.