3 months out of a stupid mistake

[The Punnisher]

Ok, I admit that I made a very big mistake. About three months ago I finished up an EQ only cycle and with VERY bad advice from someone else, didn't do any real PCT. Since that cycle I have been obsessed with researching AAS. I read everything I can find.
Now that I have a good understanding of what to do and not to do, I was thinking about trying a more "correct" cycle.
My real question here is, do you think I should do a PCT now, since I didn't do one after the EQ? Is it possible that my natural production has no yet rebounded on it's own? Do you guys think I should run a few weeks of Clomid before I start anything else?

[Amorphic]

What are your stats? Bf%, training experience, diet etc? How long was your EQ cycle? A new better cycle to start would be:

Test E 500mg/w injections every 3.5 days for 10 or 12 weeks
Start PROPER PCT 2 weeks after last injection.

I would suggest doing some research into proper PCT techniques as to not repeat your first mistake. You might be better off training naturally for a while to build a proper base and wait out time to see if your hormone levels are back to normal, otherwise the only way to know is through bloodwork.

Keep researching and good luck

[Stock]

Go get some bloodwork done and see. No one here can tell you if your body is ready yet, imo...

[taiboxa]

lol ur lucky it was an EQ only cycle and not any type of nor group there...

lay out ur stats/training history and we will see where u stand..
as for any type of hormonal "damage" i sreoiusly doubt anytihng will come from it.. eq is VERY MILD and is ran ALONE all the time.. though most people use pct but i know many who dont and are just fine.. lil on the downsyndrome side but still fine.

[The Punnisher]

Sorry, I should have listed my stats. I ran the EQ for 11 weeks (it was supposed to be 12, but the bottle was under filled).
I'm 29, 5' 8" 192 lbs. BF% is right around 15% (I just started cutting last month, down from 200). I've been into training since I was 18. I graduated high school at 130 pounds and after 7 years of VERY hard work I was able to get up to 176. At 27 I did a D-Bol / Test cycle and half way decent PCT for the times, and was able to get to 210 but maintain 200 lbs. That's where I've been ever since. My diet was pretty rocky back then, but has been in check now for about the last 6 months.

My current gym schedule looks like this:

Mon: Chest & abs
Tues: Shoulders & Cardio
Weds: Cardio only
Thurs: Back & abs
Fri: Arms & Cardio
Sat: legs
Sun: off

The cycle I was thinking about running was going to be 25 mg's of D-bol ED for weeks 1-4, 250 mg's of Test Cyp twice a week for weeks 1-12 and Winny 50 mg's ED for weeks 8-12. I will take Arimidex starting in low doses during cycle. For PCT I will have Clomid and Nolva. I always take ZMA and I'll get some tribulis to help out as well. I have been trying to HCG, but it's hard to get around my way.
My normal ED sups are a Multi, 2g's of Fish oil, 2g's of Flax Seed oil and 400 IU of Vit. E. I figure during cycle and into PCT, I'll up the Vit. E to 800 IU and add Milk Thistle at 2g's, Saw Palmetto at 2g's and a Vit. B (heavy on 6).

By the way, I chose Test Cyp over Enth and Prop simply because it's easier for me to get. I know I'll put on more than 10 pounds during cycle, but I'd like to be able to maintain the 200 mark and try to get my BF down around 12%.


All things considered, I'm not in any kind of rush to get back on cycle. I want to do this as safe as possible and I'm more concerned with my current state of being, than my future cycle. I'll get into the next cycle with you guys at another time. I just want to try to get some opinions on what I should do about natural test levels right now.

[topnotch]

Welcome to AR, and even though you messed up before, glad to see your really researching and going about things the right way now. You will learn everything you need to know around here. Just stick around. About your natty test levels, how do you feel? If you feel normal, then most likely you are since you ran EQ only..but the only 100% sure way is to have your blood checked. In my opinion, you would be fine about going ahead and running your cycle though. The only thing I see, is your taking 8 weeks worth of orals, so be careful with your liver.

[The Punnisher]

Yeah, the orals are split up with a 4 week break and the D-bol's are a pretty light dose. I am not Gyno prone, but I do bloat up pretty bad when on D's, so that's why I'm gonna keep the kick start down around 25 - 30 mg's a day. Hopefully the Arimidex will be enough to handle the bloating, but if not I'll step up to something a little more potent like Letro.

I feel fine, but my libido is a little crapy. I have also noticed that it's hard to get out of bed in the morning. No matter how much I sleep, I have a very difficult time getting myself out of bed. I never used to be this bad. I could relate that to strange hours and a lot of stress at work though I guess. I think I have the male reverse version of anorexia, because no matter what I always think I'm tiny. Now I look at myself in the mirror and I think my arms are shrinking by the day.

[The Punnisher]

Oh I forgot to say, I got a script for blood work just the other day. I asked for the "works" but didn't ask specifically for Test. Is that something that they will usually run, or should I call my Dr. and ask her to add it in? I can go and get it done whenever I want. I wanted to get it before, during and after this next cycle.

[skank]

Oh I forgot to say, I got a script for blood work just the other day. I asked for the "works" but didn't ask specifically for Test. Is that something that they will usually run, or should I call my Dr. and ask her to add it in? I can go and get it done whenever I want. I wanted to get it before, during and after this next cycle.

I had to ask my Doc for specific blood work on test levels.