Thread: Wtf does "kick in" mean?
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06-20-2007, 12:16 PM #1Junior Member
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Wtf does "kick in" mean?
Well, I'm running test Cyp 600/wk, and i'm 12 days in. I feel fuller and i'm gettin wicked ass pumps, strength is rising too. Nothing drastic but quite significant compared to before I stop.
Now I hear all this shit about 4-6 weeks for your long ester test to "kick in" but wtf does that really mean. Do you suddenly just kind notice something, or what is it. What are the qualities and traits of gear "kicking in"?
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06-20-2007, 12:19 PM #2
Increase in sex drive is normally the first but then once its "kicked in" you will notice much greater size and strength increases. Providing your eating that is...
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06-20-2007, 12:27 PM #3Junior Member
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Yea, I'm gettin about 3000 cals a day, purely clean besides High GI carbs peri-workout i.e. Oats, chicken, steak, fish...nuts, etc.
Trying to keep sodium very low, and letro is helping with the bloat. I'm also starting tren ace today. at 75 EOD for 7 weeks. That shit should kick in quick.
As for size right now about 200lbs 13%bf.
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06-20-2007, 12:28 PM #4Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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06-20-2007, 12:30 PM #5Junior Member
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Also is lethary a common effect with test....I could sleep for like 14 hours a day.
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06-20-2007, 01:03 PM #6
First cycle??
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06-20-2007, 01:18 PM #7Junior Member
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Yup.
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06-20-2007, 01:50 PM #8
What would you mess around with tren for on your first go around? Stick with the test only, you will get some great gaines.
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06-20-2007, 01:54 PM #9Junior Member
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Hmm, I never really understood that whole ideology of avoiding tren at first. What will be different if you try it now as opposed to 2 cycles down the road? I know you probably hear it all the time, but after this cycle I'll be pretty much where I wanna be. So I don't plan on doing anymore. The Tren dose is low, thus minimal sides, and the test is reasonably dosed. Tren being with an acetate ester if I feel that there are sides emerging I don't like immediate cessation will prevent any potential damage there. Do you disagree?
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06-20-2007, 01:57 PM #10Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
Stick to test, bro. Tren will knock your socks off and you may not like it.
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06-20-2007, 01:59 PM #11Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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06-20-2007, 02:00 PM #12Junior Member
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I always get statements like that from people. It's crazy shit, it'll knock your socks off, it's gonna scare the shit outta you.
WTF does that mean? No one can be specific or put it into words for me....it's the most bizarre shit, if anything it's generating intrigue.
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06-20-2007, 02:02 PM #13
you know how many people say they only plan on doing one cycle? Trust me, as soon as you stop, you will be craving to start your second cycle!!
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06-20-2007, 02:03 PM #14Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
Have you researched the sides of tren ?
People recommend test only for the first cycle for a reason. You will see how your body responds to it and set up future cycles accordingly. Im going to ignore the "im only going to do one cycle" thing.
On test only you will see great gains. You just dont need tren at this point. Otherwise why not do 10 compounds all at once right off the bat?
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06-20-2007, 02:19 PM #15Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
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06-20-2007, 02:20 PM #16
Although if the ideology "your first cycle is always your best" holds true for most.....Then I most certainly would add tren in the mix, seeing how powerful it is.
"without your word you're a shell of a man" - Tupac
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06-20-2007, 02:21 PM #17Anabolic Member
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"kick in" = door off hinges.
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06-20-2007, 02:23 PM #18Originally Posted by Giants11
stop teasing
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06-20-2007, 02:55 PM #19Originally Posted by shrpskn
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06-20-2007, 03:43 PM #20Associate Member
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"kick in" = you picking your teeth from a blood puddle on the floor - done it to a few people
I agree save the Tren , no reason to waste it right now your are going to get great gains without it.
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06-20-2007, 04:30 PM #21Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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06-20-2007, 04:50 PM #22Originally Posted by samcam
it feels so damn good"without your word you're a shell of a man" - Tupac
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06-20-2007, 05:37 PM #23Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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06-20-2007, 05:40 PM #24Junior Member
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Never said I'll do just one. I said if I am at where I want to be then thats it. I think Tren will help me get there. Regardless, you guys are prolly right, you are more experienced. But i'm pretty damn sure i'm gonna start it anyways, just to see how it goes....could be pretty ****in good. I'm looking forward to it. Should be fun, just wanna let you guys know how it's gonna be, and I really appreciate your input...I alredy got the tren, I'm sure the low dose will help.
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06-20-2007, 06:43 PM #25
you asked if lethargy is a side of test, no one answered. Is it?
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06-20-2007, 06:47 PM #26Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by millionairemurph
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06-20-2007, 06:48 PM #27Originally Posted by millionairemurph
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06-20-2007, 07:02 PM #28Junior Member
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K, prolly the letro then.
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06-21-2007, 04:39 AM #29Writer
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I don't know what "kick in" means either. Within 24 hours of taking your shot, you achieve peak blood plasma levels of the injected compound. I don't know why people think it takes 6 weeks or whatever to kick in.
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06-21-2007, 06:29 AM #30Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
So coming from someone who supposedly has used test before, you need further explanation?
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06-21-2007, 06:44 AM #31Writer
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Originally Posted by roidattack
When you double your test levels (or whatever), why would it take 6 weeks for you to feel it? The level at week 4 is not going to be much more than week 2 0r 3, when you use cyp. So you're telling me you didn't notice your test levels DOUBLED within a week, yet you notice the 1/3rd increase you got from it at week 4, and that's when it "kicked in"?
That's absurd.
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06-21-2007, 06:54 AM #32
lol, I think you play dumb sometimes just to argue.
The increase in strength and size during a test only cycle begins for most people around weeks 4-6. Possibly you are an exception to the rule. Your gains could start increasing right away.(I highly doubt that btw)
So when people say it takes 4-6 for it to "kick in" they are talking about significant size and/or strength increases.
Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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06-21-2007, 07:16 AM #33
It's always taken me at least 3-4 weeks to feel anything that has a long ester, Test wise (Enth, Cyp). Granted plasma levels may be elevated, I've never felt a longer ester any earlier than 3 weeks. Feeling it defined as; major increases in strength, libido and weight.
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06-21-2007, 08:12 AM #34Writer
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Originally Posted by roidattack
It must suck not to add a pound or rep to your workouts for 4 weeks, while you are using AAS. I don't know anyone who that has happened to, and in fact, the majority of my clients gain 25lbs on their squat and 5-10lbs within the first 3 weeks of working with me.
If you're not seeing gains starting from week 1-2, there's a problem.
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06-21-2007, 08:33 AM #35
I think it ***ends on your definition of "kick in". For me there is also a huge mental aspect and the self confidence, aggressiveness(in the gym), and the all around great feeling you get comes not only from the increase in hormones but the increase in Nitrogen, the achievement of goals, consecutive work outs that exceeded expectations and of course the compliments by others(your looking good, your getting big) this is more along the lines of the definition of "kick in" that I was referring to but again it really ***ends on how you define the term.
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06-21-2007, 08:42 AM #36Writer
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Here's the contradiction, alright? You guys ready?
If you didn't gain ANYTHING for 3-4 weeks on a cycle, you would piss and moan about thinking the gear was fake as a strippers tits, right? Yet the same guys will say they never feel anything until week 4-6.
You can't have it both ways...and...like I said, a gain is a rep or a pound...if you're putting those on at every workout, then your product has kicked in.
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06-21-2007, 08:47 AM #37Writer
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Originally Posted by Giants11
Also...100mgs of Prop EOD for a week will not raise your blood plasma levels more than 500 mgs of Enth taken once a week...so when you "feel" the prop earlier, I think that's psychological. You're getting the same blood plasma level at the same time in this case.
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Originally Posted by longhorn814
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06-21-2007, 10:30 AM #39Junior Member
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So, yea took my first shot of 75mg tren last night.
Should I stick to EOD? A good friend said to shoot mon/wed/frid for my first run, at 75mg.
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06-21-2007, 10:45 AM #40Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
"EOD" would include sunday and then tuesday. Its not like a job where you take the weekends off, lol.
Stop listening to your r-tard friend.
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