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    newbie wanting some recomendations. please!

    first off my stats:
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    Great diet and am certified through NASM as a personal trainer

    Okay so I train in Mixed martial arts and want to get stronger and harder and faster and i woud like quick results. My goal is not to eat 6000 cals a day oand get huge. i would like to gain maybe ten lbs but drop body fat percentage to like 8 or maybe 6. I want a cycle that can help me gain lean mass but keep my body fat % doen as well with the least amount of sides ( esspecially sexual) as possible. Gear is a somwhat serious topic so i would like to make the right choices and get the most out of it. Any advice? Thanks alot

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    Height?
    Cycle history?

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    1-8 Test prop 50mg/ed
    1-7 NPP 50mg/ed
    1-8 Winstrol 50mg/ed

    Be sure to have your ancillaries together.

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    5'10 and no cycle history. 1-7 NPP? so that would end up being 3 shots every day? sorry if i sound stupid im no scientist just and athlete

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad1986
    5'10 and no cycle history. 1-7 NPP? so that would end up being 3 shots every day? sorry if i sound stupid im no scientist just and athlete
    1-7 weeks. Im not trying to flam u but i dont think uknow enogh yet to start poking. If ur gona do a cycle and its ur first go with test-e 500mg for 12 weeks. That cycle has been a rule of thumb for a few people I know and it has worked great

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    thanks man. i just hear horror stories about guys not being able to get it up and thats not worth it to me. maybe theyre just doing somthing wrong or too much?

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    ^^^that will be the least of ur problems with test

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    what do you mean? should i just not mess with it then? cuz my sexlife is more important then quick fixing my goals in sports

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    he means you will be walking around knocking things off shelves with ur perma hard on. sex life will be extreme.. all things considered =)

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    lmao,and butt ugly chicks will suddenly seem very attractive

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteSniper
    1-8 Test prop 50mg/ed
    1-7 NPP 50mg/ed
    1-8 Winstrol 50mg/ed

    Be sure to have your ancillaries together.
    u dont even know what compounds he has used in the past...
    where on earth do you come up w/ this conclusion?

    honestly i would go w/ a var type of cycle leave it at that.. throw in test prop if u want.
    u dont want win... it can cause joint discomfort in many people
    and any type of nor group would be great if u can keep from gaining tons of water.. which seems to slow me down
    ur best bet would be var 60-80mg ED or TBOL (i hate both but hey may work great for you)

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    I think as young is you are you may want to just eat hard and train hard first and see how that works for you. If you are set on doing AAS and it's you first cycle why not just to Test only and proper PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    u dont even know what compounds he has used in the past...
    where on earth do you come up w/ this conclusion?
    Does it matter?

    For what he is looking for, I suggested what "in my opinion" would be an optimal cycle regardless of past compounds used. Everybody's opinion will vary. What you think is optimal may very well be minimal in anothers' eyes.

    Where on earth did you ever come up with the conclusion that it's cool to run 1g/ed of tren ? *rolls eyes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteSniper
    \Where on earth did you ever come up with the conclusion that it's cool to run 1g/ed of tren? *rolls eyes*
    wtf


    Doesnt sound like you need gear mate your very young and far from your natural potential i am sure you can acheive that in a year of two of proper training and diet.

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    After reading some of the threadstarter's other posts, he clearly is in need of a copious amount of research before he would even consider a "test only" cycle.

    So for the record, brad1986, disregard my cycle suggestion in post 3. You are not ready for gear.

    A good diet and proper OTC supplementation will get you where you desire at this point in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteSniper
    Does it matter?

    For what he is looking for, I suggested what "in my opinion" would be an optimal cycle regardless of past compounds used. Everybody's opinion will vary. What you think is optimal may very well be minimal in anothers' eyes.

    Where on earth did you ever come up with the conclusion that it's cool to run 1g/ed of tren? *rolls eyes*
    did i say it was cool? DO YOU EVEN pay attention to the advice i GIVE OTHERS? do i tell them to GO NUTS w/ gear? no i do not i actually offer sound and sufficient advice based on their experiene in aas/training to keep them as healthy as possible during their aas usage..

    u on the other hand lack the common sense to fallow through w/ this type of logic and think you should spend more time playing in traffic and less time on the aas boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    did i say it was cool? DO YOU EVEN pay attention to the advice i GIVE OTHERS? do i tell them to GO NUTS w/ gear? no i do not i actually offer sound and sufficient advice based on their experiene in aas/training to keep them as healthy as possible during their aas usage..

    u on the other hand lack the common sense to fallow through w/ this type of logic and think you should spend more time playing in traffic and less time on the aas boards.
    BAH---ZINGGGGGG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    did i say it was cool? DO YOU EVEN pay attention to the advice i GIVE OTHERS? do i tell them to GO NUTS w/ gear? no i do not i actually offer sound and sufficient advice based on their experiene in aas/training to keep them as healthy as possible during their aas usage..

    u on the other hand lack the common sense to fallow through w/ this type of logic and think you should spend more time playing in traffic and less time on the aas boards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    did i say it was cool? DO YOU EVEN pay attention to the advice i GIVE OTHERS? do i tell them to GO NUTS w/ gear? no i do not i actually offer sound and sufficient advice based on their experiene in aas/training to keep them as healthy as possible during their aas usage..

    u on the other hand lack the common sense to fallow through w/ this type of logic and think you should spend more time playing in traffic and less time on the aas boards.


    Something's fishy about the sniper, how would he know anything about Tai? He's only been here a few days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titleist


    Something's fishy about the sniper, how would he know anything about Tai? He's only been here a few days...

    Hmmmmmm can we all say it together........ I P CHECK PLEASE !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    Hmmmmmm can we all say it together........ I P CHECK PLEASE !!!!!
    Sounds like a plan. If I knew how to do it, I'd be all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titleist
    Sounds like a plan. If I knew how to do it, I'd be all over it.

    Only the ADMINS and vets/mods can do IP Checks I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaramouche
    ^^^that will be the least of ur problems with test
    that's for sure!!! lol

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    hugosilva- I just have to say dude you are JAKKED... man what i would give to look like that..

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    Haha, I'm reading post after post and then I come to this guy who recommends that cycle one be
    1-8 Test prop 50mg/ed
    1-7 NPP 50mg/ed
    1-8 Winstrol 50mg/ed [
    I was shocked, and a couple more lines and I see that he is banned.

    Hahaha
    I love this board

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