13 week cycle ''need help''

[Aussiemuscle]

finish current cycle on 19 sep including pct and want to have finished another by 19 dec
"cutting cycle" for summer that only leaves me 13 weeks was thinking of doing
week 1-9 500mg sus
week 1-7 400mg eq
week 1-4 40mg diana
week 9-11 40mg win
week 9-13 usual pct

have read that eq takes around ten to twelve weeks to kick in so i am thinking of replacing the eq with something else but dont know what and i definately dont want to do e/d injections i would like to stick to wednesday and sunday "left and right arse cheek" im out of ideas any input please

stats
28yo
183cm
97kg
16%bf

currently on second cycle ever
week 1-12 500mg sus
week 1-10 400mg deca
week 1-4 40mg diana
week 13-16 usual pct

thanks for any input "heaps" its doing my farkin head in.

[Mista Massive]

are you familiar with the time on = time off protocol?

[Aussiemuscle]

do you meen taking an equal amount of time off gear to what you spent on it yeah i have and all my research has told me that with this cycle it can be repeated four weeks later if proper pct is done is that what you are talkin about

[Mista Massive]

so you are saying that you would be on for 12 weeks, do PCT, OFF for 4 weeks, then back on again?

sorry, just want to make sure i understand you

[Aussiemuscle]

so you are saying that you would be on for 12 weeks, do PCT, OFF for 4 weeks, then back on again?

sorry, just want to make sure i understand you

on cycle for 12 weeks four weeks of pct back on about three days after completing pct thanks mista i think i might have ****ed up. in the reviews i read i dont know if the four weeks off was including pct or it was four weeks off after pct guess i should go back and check again "yeah fun" ilove looking at reviews on net for hours that i have already read before NOT do you think starting another a few days after pct would be ok

[Mista Massive]

in my studies and research i would say definately not.

the receptors need time to refresh AND not to mention you aren't giving your body a chance to recover. if you are going to use this method, it would serve you far better to stay on all year round. but that's another situation

[Aussiemuscle]

in my studies and research i would say definately not.

the receptors need time to refresh AND not to mention you aren't giving your body a chance to recover. if you are going to use this method, it would serve you far better to stay on all year round. but that's another situation

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think i am just gonna wait the four weeks after pct then repeat cycle just didnt want to be on gear while on summer holidays so i could let my hair down and not be too concerned about drinking or skipping workouts ohh well atleast ill be lookin massive hey, do you think taking a week off training and drinking a few times over christmas would be so bad mid cycle 8th week not taking any orals (liver) but still eating properly and jogging daily

[Mista Massive]

i take a week off every 6-8 weeks no matter what.

so yeah, you should be fine to go ahead and relax for a week

[Aussiemuscle]

i take a week off every 6-8 weeks no matter what.

so yeah, you should be fine to go ahead and relax for a week

was thinkin it couldnt do me any harm to take a week rest probably a good thing for me anyways cheers mate! thanks for your input

[SMAN12b]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306307

no need to make two of the same threads...just bump the old one if you want more replies

[longhorn814]

do you meen taking an equal amount of time off gear to what you spent on it yeah i have and all my research has told me that with this cycle it can be repeated four weeks later if proper pct is done is that what you are talkin about

you need better research!! Time off = time on + PCT...you should not start 4 weeks later as your body needs the time off to recover and return to normal. If youre dead set on starting so soon, I suggest you get all your blood work done to make sure all your levels have returned back to normal

[Aussiemuscle]

you need better research!! Time off = time on + PCT...you should not start 4 weeks later as your body needs the time off to recover and return to normal. If youre dead set on starting so soon, I suggest you get all your blood work done to make sure all your levels have returned back to normal

alot of my research has told me that i can repeat this cycle four weeks after completion of pct im not completly dead set on doing this but would realy like to do you believe that my research is a bit missleading saying this

[Aussiemuscle]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306307

no need to make two of the same threads...just bump the old one if you want more replies

thanks sman i didnt do this deliberately i just couldnt find the first one i entered thought it mustnt have been entered correctly might try bumping next time but anyways ta

[longhorn814]

alot of my research has told me that i can repeat this cycle four weeks after completion of pct im not completly dead set on doing this but would realy like to do you believe that my research is a bit missleading saying this

not sure where you've researched that you will be fine to start another cycle 4 weeks after PCT, I'd like to see where you read that. Sure you can start 4 weeks after if you want, its your body, not mine

[Booz]

time on + pct = time off mate,if you would have done your research you would have come up with this every time..........................
the only reason to safely take gear at an earlier date imo would be to have your bloodwork done and if that says you are ok then you go for it...............................
but general rule of thumb is like i stated earlier................................

[Aussiemuscle]

time on + pct = time off mate,if you would have done your research you would have come up with this every time..........................
the only reason to safely take gear at an earlier date imo would be to have your bloodwork done and if that says you are ok then you go for it...............................
but general rule of thumb is like i stated earlier................................

yeah i have done a shit load of research and majority of the time this was the case but on a few instances i was told that i could repeat the cycle i am on right now i do most of my research from the only two sites i can find with a chat forum on them but a while ago i did look in other sites not as well known and i am starting to think this is where this info come from so without going back to all them sites i am just gonna stick to the advise i have got from here time on = time off thanks for all the input everyone really appreciate it! fark them other sites

[Selene]

off time starts when pct is finished

good luck to you