been a long time

**big_dom85** · 06-29-2007, 08:42 PM

Alright guys its been a long time since i have been on the board... i still havent done a cycle, so this will be my first.

stats 21yo 5'10" 198lbs 8%bf on 7fold pinch test

so heres what i was think about for my first cycle

# Week 1 to 5: 50mg of Anadrol Every Day
# Week 1 to 6: 750mg of Test E Per Week
# Week 1 to 10: 400mg of Deca Per Week
# Week 7 to 12: 100mg of Prop Every Day
# Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny Every Day

ok as far as Anti e goes i was thinking about Nolvadex but what do you guys think? PCT i was thinking about following Anthony Roberts guide except for the Aromasin , I cant find it anywhere! what is a good substitute for that?

Thanks you guys.

**SMAN12b** · 06-29-2007, 08:45 PM

Way TOO much for a first cycle !!!!!!

First of all you are still a bit young....still got plenty of Natty hormones you could utilize before you start messing with your endocrine system but.....since you will probably start anyway

You should make first cycle ONE COMPOUND single ester test at 500mgs/week so that you can LEARN how your body is gonna react.

If you use all the compounds you listed and at the doses, you will NEVER know what is doing what to your body, both good and bad....

NO need to be at 750mgs of test on a FIRST cyle

**Lexed** · 06-29-2007, 08:47 PM

dam man that is such a complicated cycle for first one just run test eth 500mg for 12 weeks. With the standard pct clom/nolva

**Lexed** · 06-29-2007, 08:47 PM

dam it sman u beat me to it..

**big_dom85** · 06-29-2007, 09:00 PM

Thanks for the info guys.. but dont you think that just running Test E is kind of a waste of my Cell Receptors? i mean Im sure that in the future Im going to want to run another stack. So what in stead? just cut out the prop and winney, And run the deca , test e and anadrol ....
Deca and test for 12weeks and then anadrol for 5 still? or seriousley just run the
test by it self

?

**big_dom85** · 06-29-2007, 09:01 PM

Oh and what about the Aromasin substitute?

**Lexed** · 06-29-2007, 09:02 PM

you can use anadrol as a kick starter

**SMAN12b** · 06-29-2007, 10:19 PM

Did I stutter in my post???

ONE COMPOUND. Single ester Test !!

Your receptors are fresh and will respond greatly to the least amount of AAS right now, so why burn them out with all those compounds?? NOT SMART

Use the least amount to get the greatest results !! your DIET and Training are going to dictate your gains!!!

but hey, what do we know..................Your 5'10 and 198, I am 5'11" and 250 and STILL haven't used that much in one cycle as you propose!!! Hmmmm.....

**big_dom85** · 06-30-2007, 08:09 PM

Alright guys thanks im just going to run the test e by it self...

for how long do you think?

**kynetguy** · 06-30-2007, 08:16 PM

Go with Sman. If that is you in your avatar, you have a good base. Running Test only and tuning your diet you will be happy with your gains.

If you get too complicated and something bad happens, you won't have the expirience with your compounds and your body to know what is causing a problem.

If you REALLY want to use two things, I would consider test prop weeks 1-2 as a kick start before the Test E kicks in. (sman will shoot me for that I bet)

As for the length of a test E only cycle, I would go 10-12 weeks.

**big_dom85** · 07-01-2007, 07:12 PM

Kynetguy, SMAN, and Lexed. Thank all of you guys for your input and ya that is me on my avatar. I look a little big there because of resizing it. Any ways i guess I'll just run the Test Enthanate then. So this kinda sux the PCT is going to cost more than the C!!

**kynetguy** · 07-01-2007, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by big_dom85

Kynetguy, SMAN, and Lexed. Thank all of you guys for your input and ya that is me on my avatar. I look a little big there because of resizing it. Any ways i guess I'll just run the Test Enthanate then. So this kinda sux the PCT is going to cost more than the C!!

Yea, PCT is pretty expensive. Shop around a bit if you don't have your compounds. I used to get mine from a powder source that went out of business and that made my PCT compounds dirt cheap. Well, Aromasin was still expensive, but not nearly what you pay for it at research companies.

For PCT, look at Anthony Roberts PCT in the PCT forum. It should work fine for you on a Test E cycle. When you start getting into heavier cycles, you might need something a little more aggressive. But his has worked well in most cases for me.