Tren Problem!?!?! - Please Help

[VTliftVT]

Stats:

23yr old
195lbs
8% BF
6'1"

I never thought I would start a post with this but here goes...

"So I didn't have my PCT when I started my cycle...."
(Source ended up in a touch of trouble to say the least)

Masteron@ 50 mg EOD
Tren A @ 50mg EOD
Test Prop @ 75mg EOD


Everything was going well during cycle with no complications other than increased irritability and a little depression. Tren also gave me serious night sweats but nothing I couldn't handle. Once I found out of my sources situation I quit my cycle (7 weeks, almost over anyway). I immediately began to use what was available as PCT including the following:
- Novedex XT

Currently Using: (began administering between 3-4 weeks after cycle ended once face began to swell)

- Natural Test booster w/ Estrogen Blocker (Nx Labs T3)
- Vitamin C
- Vitamin B-6
- Vitex (Chaste Berry to stimulate pituary and lower cortisol)
- 7 Keto (again to stimulate thyroid being supressed by the tren)

Everything was going well after for a while until I woke up one morning with serious moonface (I believe this to be after I had ran out of Novedex XT, but I can't remember the exact date). The glands in my face were swollen as well as my cheeks. I thought that I had an allergic reaction to shell fish I had the night before so I went to the docs and they saw me for 5 min, gave me some oral steroid and shuttled me out. I took allergy meds for a while but when nothing had changed over the course of a month (face still swollen but now glands were THROBBING all day) I went to an ear/nose/throat/allergy doc. He had no clue and told me I was basically a hypo (yet everyone around me had commented on my fat face). My depression was still there and the night sweats occasionally as well. I was very irritable still and found that I was often cold when others were not. Everything seemed to point to a reduced thyroid level and increased cortisol (from what ive read). It has been 6 weeks and nothing has changed, face still swollen (worse in mornings) and throbbing glands. I just got my hand on some clomid just trying to receieve any help i can get but im worried that I may just make things worse by throwing in all sorts of supplements blindly.

I still lift 5 days a week and do low intensity cardio 7 days a week (obviously I was on a cutting cycle). I have been eating 6-7 meals a day with only old fashioned oats or oat bran at 150 - 200 carbs a day. Protein 30-40 grams per meal being low sodium tuna, chicken breast, or tilapia (also sashimi in there). Fats 40-50 grams per day mainly from organic peanut butter.

Can anyone lead me in the right direction? Will this EVER get better? I have a new source and can get Bromo or something to that sort if needed but I do not have any lactation going on or gyno effects. Anyone have a clue whats wrong with my body? I have a full physical with stool, urine, and blood work in a few days as well so hopefully I will know more then. ANY and ALL help would be appreciated.

[Kratos]

could be so many things, two things I can think of you can try on your own

1st try a strong dose of benadryl, you may be developing allergies
2nd try an AI as it could be water retention due to post cycle estrogen

Otherwise you are going to need to wait for the full blood work could be anything from mumps to lukemia... if you are right and it is a thyroid condtition you may want to wait to start thyroid meds to see if it will normalize on it's own

[bpm1]

GL bro post up when u find out whats up, im curious now......oh im sure u'll never start a cycle w/out ur pct in hand ehh?

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

- dont self medicate- you could make the condition worse

- go consult an endocrinologist and see what he has to say about the bloodwork.

[VTliftVT]

thanks for the responces...definitely will never be unprepared again. as soon as i get the test results / feeback I will post.

[inheritmylife]

I'd say it is something that you were using for PCT, if in fact that is when the problem started.

You've got a rapsheet of stuff there, none of which is something that you have probably ever used before.


Drop all of it, and continue the clomid.

[VTliftVT]

I forgot to add that I began taking Masteron at the end of the cycle for the last 3-4 weeks. It was then that the combined side effects became so much (lack of sleep and extreme irritability) that I stopped the cycle...along with the knowledge of no PCT in my near future.

I know Masteron "eliminates" the need for an AI so could that have anything to do with a possible "rebound effect" once it was discontinued without further continuance of test prop? And if this were possible and knowing that there are "anti-estrogen" type properties in the OTC type PCT that I had to administer, would this be what prolonged the negative effects for the period of time applied?