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    Mass Tabs

    Just wanted to let you all know that Mass Tabs are bunk. 2 weeks ago I was on a "cycle" of Mass Tabs and ending my 3rd week...I went to the doctor to get some blood work done and as of today I have been told my Test levels are low. I have high thyroxine levels and everything else is "normal." We did another blood test today and I will get those results back next week. Just doesn't seem right not to pass this on. BTW, I've never done a "real" cycle so my test levels have no reason to be out of whack other than using the MassTabs

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    if your test levels are suppressed this would indicate they are somehow not bunk. Looks like an odd mix of crappy herbs and spices though, nothing I would take.

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    I actually researched them a bit on here and a majority had no complaints. But the tests prove otherwise for my system. One would think that the 3rd week in that with a product like that that my test levels would be raised. Meh, next test is back next week. I went in to the doc originally because I have some puberty gyno...again, I've never juiced. They wanted to run tests to ensure that when i get a referral for a cosmetic surgeon that the gyno won't come back...naturally at least.

    edit: I see your point regarding low test levels and the product possibly suppressing the production....hmmm, never thought of that before!

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    i actually took these...

    worked for me...

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    how do you know your test levels weren't low before you took the mass tabs? Did you have blood work before?

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    But in theory, any test boosting supplement should theoretically raise blood levels of test no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    But in theory, any test boosting supplement should theoretically raise blood levels of test no?
    who said mass tabs are supposed to raise your test levels?

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    not if your baseline was in the crapper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos
    not if your baseline was in the crapper

    No I didn't get any blood work done prior...so that is a possibility also. I would just hate to think that my test levels are normally low....sounds like a trip to an endocrinologist is in my future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    No I didn't get any blood work done prior...so that is a possibility also. I would just hate to think that my test levels are normally low....sounds like a trip to an endocrinologist is in my future.
    Define "low."

    How old are you?

    Are your levels in the low end of a normal range for your age? Are your levels below normal ranges for your age? Define low.

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    forget mass tabs use havoc by rpn

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    ugh, mass tabs are a form of masteron crossed with m1t, so obviously there not "bunk" this guys probably just does not how to train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.Biz
    ugh, mass tabs are a form of masteron crossed with m1t, so obviously there not "bunk" this guys probably just does not how to train.
    Sounds like you have nothing to worry about, that mix would drop your test levels nicely.

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    The training has never been an issue. I've been training for 8+ years...I think I know what I'm doing. Since when did my training have anything to do with this?

    The simple issue is that my test levels are low for a 31 y/o male. I honestly can't remember what the actual number was that he said...because he was just going down the list quickly.

    So, maybe the Mass Tabs aren't bunk. Maybe I expected that on the 3rd week of the cycle that my test levels would be higher than normal. I will say, in the Mass Tabs defense that my strength went up and I did put on about 10 lbs, but anything between 5-10 lbs on me is typically water weight so I don't rely heavily on those numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    Since when did my training have anything to do with this?
    Training can be a lot to do with it. Training can effect:

    1. Test levels
    2. Results of a cycle (mass vs cutting)
    Training tells a lot about you actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    The simple issue is that my test levels are low for a 31 y/o male. I honestly can't remember what the actual number was that he said...because he was just going down the list quickly.
    Anytime you get bloodwork, get a copy of it. The actual numbers can tell a lot. If you are on the low end of the scale, meh, could be your natural levels. But since you don't have a baseline, who knows. One can only guess.

    You are over 30, I hate to be the one to tell you the bad news, but you test levels are going to continue to decline. SOmetimes pretty dramatically. Enter: Test Replacement Therapy, self administered or dr. prescribed. The latter is getting harder and harder to pull off. And self administered, well, you have to gain access to illegal ans scheduled medication. . .testosterone.

    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    So, maybe the Mass Tabs aren't bunk. Maybe I expected that on the 3rd week of the cycle that my test levels would be higher than normal. I will say, in the Mass Tabs defense that my strength went up and I did put on about 10 lbs, but anything between 5-10 lbs on me is typically water weight so I don't rely heavily on those numbers
    You have to understand, even with real AAS, your test does not always raise. INfact, some will shut you down. Which is why we take Testosterone with most every cycle. Maybe you just become more anabolic. (hense more strength and weight gain (assuming its not ALL water weight))

    But you are over 30. . .so its time that you start to accept some simple truths. You are going to start falling apart and not be able to do the things you once could. I know its a harsh reality. I live it every day.

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