Masteron: How much Test Cyp must I take?

[the fly]

I'm taking 100mg Masteron EOD. And 200mg test cyp 2 x a week. I've read that I NEED to take Test with Masteron, but how much do I have to take?

Will 200 mgs once a week and Masteron 100mgs EOD be ok?
I think the Test cyp is bloating me a little and I'd like to cut it back.
Will Test CYP only 200mgs once a week make my Masteron ineffective??
I know test prop is a better choice but I don't have it.

Will Test CYP only 200mgs once a week make my Masteron ineffective??

[naturalsux]

I'm taking 100mg Masteron EOD. And 200mg test cyp 2 x a week. I've read that I NEED to take Test with Masteron, but how much do I have to take?

Will 200 mgs once a week and Masteron 100mgs EOD be ok?
I think the Test cyp is bloating me a little and I'd like to cut it back.
Will Test CYP only 200mgs once a week make my Masteron ineffective??
I know test prop is a better choice but I don't have it.

Will Test CYP only 200mgs once a week make my Masteron ineffective??

i run 400mg of mast e with 250mg of test per wk.

you ll be fine. use a little arimidex for the bloating.

[goonstopher]

Masteron is one of few drugs that you do not need test with IF you goals are just to tighten aka lose water and fat and gain strength.

Also you will not bloat at all with 400mg mast and just 200mg test e but really mast alone will not be a very good cycle.

[the fly]

i run 400mg of mast e with 250mg of test per wk.

you ll be fine. use a little arimidex for the bloating.

So I could cut back to 200 or 250 test once a week?

I don't have my Armidex yet, its in the mail.
I've been taking Nolva 20 mgs a day.

So could I cut back to 200 or 250 test once a week?

[goonstopher]

So I could cut back to 200 or 250 test once a week?

I don't have my Armidex yet, its in the mail.
I've been taking Nolva 20 mgs a day.

So could I cut back to 200 or 250 test once a week?

I dont want to attack the poster who posted this for you but you are ignoring what I said and you are getting bad information.

The reason people "need" test is for sex drive and performance. Mast is DHT which will increase sex drive. Also mast with cyp is a horrible halflife combo. You do not need arimidex and finally you also will not see much from this cycle..

P.s. Adding test can't make masteron less effective at any dose. You need to tell everyone your goals because it sounds like you need more help

[the fly]

I dont want to attack the poster who posted this for you but you are ignoring what I said and you are getting bad information.

The reason people "need" test is for sex drive and performance. Mast is DHT which will increase sex drive. Also mast with cyp is a horrible halflife combo. You do not need arimidex and finally you also will not see much from this cycle..

P.s. Adding test can't make masteron less effective at any dose. You need to tell everyone your goals because it sounds like you need more help

Thanks Goon,
1) What information is bad?
2) I got the "need" test from this site see quote
"Stacking Masteron? Well, I’d say that your best bet is with test, of course…but really, due to Masteron’s reasonable binding to the Androgen Receptors and its high androgenic properties, almost any cutting drug (Tren, Anavar, etc…) could be included in a cycle with it for an efficient stack. I have a feeling that due to Stanozolol’s (Winstrol) non-AR mediated effects, and it’s ability to reduce SHBG, a stack including both of these drugs would be very synergistic. However, don’t forget the Testosterone, as Masteron will reduce your own natural testosterone levels (9)…and since you are going to have to inject Masteron Every Other Day at least (100mgs EOD is the lowest dose of this stuff I’d consider using), you might as well stack it with Testosterone Propionate, and possibly injectable Winstrol (and/or maybe Tren Acetate…if you’re inclined to use a lot of compounds in the same cycle…and I know I am…). Eq is another popular choice to stack with Masteron. "

3) Why won't I see much from this cycle? How could I see more?
4) My goals are to really rip it up without any significant weight loss, maintain a nice healthy sex drive.

[goonstopher]

Nowhere in there does it in anyway say you NEED to stack it with test so you're not gettign bad info you just are not explaining it clearly. If this is your first cycle (another important thing to know) or you are over 13-14% bodyfat then masteron isn't ideal. Masteron is said to be only for people at 5% or below which is a myth but still you can't be pudgy and expect to see much besides hardening and some increase in fat burning. Also MAsteron will not be a great mass preserver in a caloric deficiency

[the fly]

Nowhere in there does it in anyway say you NEED to stack it with test so you're not gettign bad info you just are not explaining it clearly. If this is your first cycle (another important thing to know) or you are over 13-14% bodyfat then masteron isn't ideal. Masteron is said to be only for people at 5% or below which is a myth but still you can't be pudgy and expect to see much besides hardening and some increase in fat burning. Also MAsteron will not be a great mass preserver in a caloric deficiency

Its my Second Cycle. it does say "dont forget the test"

Also im not pudgy. see attached

[the fly]

I'm taking 100mg Masteron EOD. And 200mg test cyp 2 x a week. I've read that I NEED to take Test with Masteron, but how much do I have to take?

Will 200 mgs once a week and Masteron 100mgs EOD be ok?
I think the Test cyp is bloating me a little and I'd like to cut it back.
Will Test CYP only 200mgs once a week make my Masteron ineffective??
I know test prop is a better choice but I don't have it.

Will Test CYP only 200mgs once a week make my Masteron ineffective??

[goonstopher]

Need could mean 2 things here thats what you are not understanding...

Do you NEED test for masteron to carry out its unique dht based actions: NO

Will masteron still tighten without test: YES

Will masteron alone kill sex drive: NO

Will you see much gains from masteron alone: NO!

Any mass gains you are seeing are 100% from the test not the masteron so in effect yes you need the test but not for that traditional reason of sex drive maintenence

[the fly]

Need could mean 2 things here thats what you are not understanding...

Do you NEED test for masteron to carry out its unique dht based actions: NO

Will masteron still tighten without test: YES

Will masteron alone kill sex drive: NO

Will you see much gains from masteron alone: NO!

Any mass gains you are seeing are 100% from the test not the masteron so in effect yes you need the test but not for that traditional reason of sex drive maintenence

OK so can i Taper down to 200mgs once a week test so i get the best of both worlds?

[the fly]

OK thanks!!!
Can i Taper down my Test to 200mgs once a week test cyp so i get the best of both worlds without risking shutdown or sexdrive decrease or crashing?

[10nispro]

Are you wanting to cut back on the test. only because of the bloat or are you having other problems? Most that I have talked to, who are on test., if a midget walked by them, they could do a chin-up on their appendage. Btw how old are you? And is your diet clean?

[the fly]

Are you wanting to cut back on the test. only because of the bloat or are you having other problems? Most that I have talked to, who are on test., if a midget walked by them, they could do a chin-up on their appendage. Btw how old are you? And is your diet clean?

Its the Bloat and the growth.
I do not want to grow anymore but I do want to cut up without losing size.

[goonstopher]

Eat better if you don't want to grow or bloat! Masteron alone will not preserve your mass on a strict diet and if you were dieting strict enough you would not be bloating while on masteron with the test and you also would not be growing. Plain and simple you need the test and you need to eat less if you really want to cut and not grow which will also help the bloat when you cut carbs and salt.

[naturalsux]

I dont want to attack the poster who posted this for you but you are ignoring what I said and you are getting bad information.

The reason people "need" test is for sex drive and performance. Mast is DHT which will increase sex drive. Also mast with cyp is a horrible halflife combo. You do not need arimidex and finally you also will not see much from this cycle..

P.s. Adding test can't make masteron less effective at any dose. You need to tell everyone your goals because it sounds like you need more help

whats bad?
he asked a simple question and i answered with my experience with mast and test.
i used arimidex too keep estrogen levels down, which i thought was causing his bloating, cause he sensitive to test.

whats was so wrong?

[goonstopher]

whats bad?
he asked a simple question and i answered with my experience with mast and test.
i used arimidex too keep estrogen levels down, which i thought was causing his bloating, cause he sensitive to test.

whats was so wrong?

I was not reffering to you in the most part. The notion that you need test with masteron without any explanation as to why was very poor advice. I'm done with this thread because I think the point has been straightened out that yes you do need test because masteron is a very week anabolic but no you dont need test for masteron to do what it does aka for it to "work"

[the fly]

I was not reffering to you in the most part. The notion that you need test with masteron without any explanation as to why was very poor advice. I'm done with this thread because I think the point has been straightened out that yes you do need test because masteron is a very week anabolic but no you dont need test for masteron to do what it does aka for it to "work"

But Nobody is answering about the cutback to 200mgs 1 inject a week instead of 200mgs 2 x a week.

[john vega]

dude, just do urself a favor and continue to take thet nolva until the arimidex arives. meantime, id cut test to 300 mgs not 400 mgs if ur concerned with bloat. make certain.. all processed foods are eliminated from diet, sodium intake is low besides foods that naturally contain sodium....and try to not eat solid foods past 8pm...considering u train way before that. id take some protein drinks instead at night. best advice i cud give u. it is a pretty strange cycle..i must be bold and admit that..but whatever u like. i wish u best..

[the fly]

dude, just do urself a favor and continue to take thet nolva until the arimidex arives. meantime, id cut test to 300 mgs not 400 mgs if ur concerned with bloat. make certain.. all processed foods are eliminated from diet, sodium intake is low besides foods that naturally contain sodium....and try to not eat solid foods past 8pm...considering u train way before that. id take some protein drinks instead at night. best advice i cud give u. it is a pretty strange cycle..i must be bold and admit that..but whatever u like. i wish u best..

HMM
so 150 2x a week
or 300 at once?

[Booz]

But Nobody is answering about the cutback to 200mgs 1 inject a week instead of 200mgs 2 x a week.

there will not be a problem cutting your test to 200mg weekly no mate...........
if you wanna tighten up diet and cardio is the way to go..................

[the fly]

there will not be a problem cutting your test to 200mg weekly no mate...........
if you wanna tighten up diet and cardio is the way to go..................

Thanks Booz!