Cycle Critique

[steroidnewbie]

23 been lifting since 5th grade and I weighted myself last night and I'm exactly at 209. I'm 6'1" and my body fat is around 11-12 percent. I have Deca, Test Prop, and Nolva on hand, and I'm picking up Test E tomorrow night. I'm looking to start my cycle within the next two weeks. I'm eating over 4000 calories a day and I'm taking in around 400g of protein a day. I'm taking a Multi, B-6, NOX, and Creatine/Taurine/Glutamine stack. My goals for this cycle are to bulk as much as possible in 10-12 weeks max. Not looking to cut at all as I'm pretty lean already. I don't want to inject ed but I'm looking to frontload with Prop to make the most of my cycle. Any opinions on a cycle would be greatly appreciated. Also for PCT I'm going for the Anthony Roberts PCT which may be a little overkill as I'm still young but I want to play it safe. Thanks everyone!

[SMAN12b]

Hard to give opinions when you didn't give us your proposed cycle. You need to lay it out in weeks and doses so we can see how you want to run things

[steroidnewbie]

I'm not trying to exceed 400mgs/week for Test or Deca...at least untill I peak.

Ten weeks
Monday and Friday Injections
400mgs/week Test E
400mgs/week Deca
10mgs Nolva ED

No idea on frontloading Test Prop.

[BuffDJ]

Pretty simple cycle. Run the test two weeks longer then your deca. I would only use the Nolva if you have issues. Have you PCT ready and start it 2 weeks after last test injection and you should be good to go.
Buff

[steroidnewbie]

How should I frontload with Prop? Should I run it with Test E or switch to Test E in 2 or so weeks? Thanks everyone

[john vega]

can i ask y u wud frontload with prop when u cud frontload with the enanthate for 1 week at double the dosage than maintain the dosage at 400-500 mgs for the remainder of ur 12 weeks. like aforementioned above, run the test 2 weeks more than the deca. save the prop for a short estered cycle..or if ur steadfast on using it...integrade it in from weeks 12 to week 14..than start ur pct on week 14 and discontinue the prop. thats how id do it in my opinion. im running a similar cycle myself like u. lemme know how u make out.

lotz of luk

[Njord]

He is using the term frontload incorrectly. What he means to say is "kickstart" his cycle with the prop wich many people do. He could also frontload the test e like you said, but I think the prop kickstart will be faster.

[dblock189]

How about this?

500mg test e 1-12
400 mgs deca 1-10

two weeks after last shot do pct. I dont know exactly which one do you plan on doing but you can get away with novadex/clomid on that cycle i would say.

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[steroidnewbie]

Awesome advice I'll keep everyone posted thanks everyone. So should I kickstart with the Prop or just double up Test E for the first week? I was under the impression long estered Test like Test E wouldn't kick in untill like week 5-6.

[john vega]

i wud kickstart on the prop if i were u. imo

[john vega]

75 mgs ed 4 1st 4 weekx..

[steroidnewbie]

john- that would be in addition to 400mgs week of Test E correct? Obviously 400mgs of Deca as well.

[john vega]

absolutely brother. i wud kickstart the prop at 75 mgs ed with the enanthate .the short ester from ther prop wud kick in quickly in terms of strength and minimal water retention b4 the long-esterfied enanthate begins to kick in.
weeks1-4 test prop 75 mgs ed
1-12 test e 200 mgs mon/thurs
1-10 deca 400 mgs. 200mon/thurs all in same pin as enanthate.

nolva on hand in case of gyno. pct start week 14 as enanthate ester clears out.

[taiboxa]

imo jumpstarting w/ a short ester test is pointless.. all u have to do is frontload and ur plasma levels are peaked almost as fast.
an AI would be far more effective to combat gyno.

[canadian meat]

imo jumpstarting w/ a short ester test is pointless.. all u have to do is frontload and ur plasma levels are peaked almost as fast.
an AI would be far more effective to combat gyno.

In before the lock

[taiboxa]

[SMAN12b]

In before the lock

That's just SOOOO wrong !! Its accurate, but still wrong !!!.....lolol

Guess this thread will be deleted soon


THANKS TAI !!!

[Booz]

poor tai..................

[Stock]

Frontload the Test E, and save the prop to use at the end.

Wk1 Test E 1g(1000mg) two inj
wk2-10 Test E 500mg EW
wK1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
wk11-12 Test P 100mg EOD
Wk13 PCT

[steroidnewbie]

Thanks everyone

Monday I injected...
200mgs Deca
200mgs Test E
100mgs Test P

My ass hurts like hell. Keep the advice coming everyone, I'm thinking of stopping EOD injections of Prop and Just upping the Test E on Friday when I do my Test E/Deca injection. One more question, where should I inject my .75mg Prop shot today...delt, thigh, other glute? Thanks everyone.