new cycle question--is it to much

[the swole patrol]

im bak down to 110ibs. from 140. just got off a 4week cycle of d-bol.
i was wonderin if i took this stack,, wud it be to much at 110ibs.
50mg anadrol50 ed
300mg test e every4days
300mg equipose every4days
and nolvadex 2weeks prior to gettin off.
hcg?

it is my 2nd cycle. made incredle gains of dbol. went from benchin a plate with troulbe to maxin out at 225 in 2 weeks. but i cant gain wate naturaly. metabolism is to high. and never made it on ne thing w/o juice. please help

[Kratos]

im bak down to 110ibs. from 140. just got off a 4week cycle of d-bol.
i was wonderin if i took this stack,, wud it be to much at 110ibs.
50mg anadrol50 ed
300mg test e every4days
300mg equipose every4days
and nolvadex 2weeks prior to gettin off.
hcg?

it is my 2nd cycle. made incredle gains of dbol. went from benchin a plate with troulbe to maxin out at 225 in 2 weeks. but i cant gain wate naturaly. metabolism is to high. and never made it on ne thing w/o juice. please help

you better be a girl

[Amorphic]

At 110 pounds I'm amazed your joints and ligaments survived your 30 pound gain. Fast metabolism or not, that is incredibly light to be toying with anabolics. Diet forum is the place for you, otherwise you could really hurt yourself with the gains from a new cycle.

If you're going to ignore the advice of experienced users, mods and vets, then you can go ahead and cycle, but I would recommend you stay away from anabolics.

Also, what is your age, bf%, goals, diet? We need to know these things.

[the swole patrol]

wat, repin out a plate? i only weighed 107 then

[the swole patrol]

19yr old,,, body fat- extremely low....plan-gain as much wate as poss. and strenght
diet- every 2 hrs stuffed my face w clean and some dirty food like a burger for calories and chuged it down w a wate gainer. maybe 4000 calories a day. even woke up at 2 and 5 in the morning to feed my muscles.

[Kratos]

Your metabolism can't be higher than when I was rowing crew. A rower burns 7000 cals a day I was able to maintain 225. How you ask? I ate over 7000 cals a day. I never touched steroids until this year. Unless you have a disorder preventing you from gaining weight it isn't your metabolism. How tall/old are you, I can't even picture what 107 looks like.

[the swole patrol]

but yeah i gained 30ibs in the cycle.2ibs a day. thats normal rite? with 40mg everyday. i went from benchin a plate w trouble to maxin out arond 230 in maybe 2weeks. cause it didnt kick in until 8-12days in the start and took for 4weeks. so i had effects for 2 1/2 weeks. i weighed around 135 and pushin up 85 on db incline

[the swole patrol]

i am 5-3

[Kratos]

Someone needs to flame this guy, but I can't, he's so little I feel bad for him.

[the swole patrol]

yeah i dont no about my joints. i started getin pain in my shoulders kinda bad and in my left elbow

[the swole patrol]

how do u get 7000 cal a day. wate shakes?

[Kratos]

how do u get 7000 cal a day. wate shakes?

I was always hungry, we were doing 5am practice in the AM until 800, and afternoon practice at 4-7 most days. Never stop eating. I'll be honest some of it was dirty like dougnuts with dinner, but I wasn't putting on bodyfat. Drink milk with every meal, and just eat a lot of good foods.

[Kratos]

at 19 you really shouldn't be doing steroids, I waited until 27, most agree you are damaging your developing body and endocrine system.

[SMAN12b]

Look if you were on Dbol. the 30lb gain was ALL WATER yeah strength goes up with DBOL, but that is why you lost everything !!!!!!!!!!


There is NO way you should be touching steroids when you have NO CLUE as to what they are or how they work!! You could be causing yourself a world of damage

[the swole patrol]

i know a good bit just not all of them, or about stacking. but wats the earliest i shud start. bc alot of friends my age and 21 do it. they dont pressure me. they mostly tell me thats to much.

[Kratos]

dude, you just need to get your girlfriend to cook you some good food and eat it. Your diet is your problem and if you eat you will gain without f-ing up your body.

[SMAN12b]

i know a good bit just not all of them, or about stacking. but wats the earliest i shud start. bc alot of friends my age and 21 do it. they dont pressure me. they mostly tell me thats to much.

start reading this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

if you were on a 4 week cycle of dbol ONLY, I am sorry but you know NOTHING about steroids!!!

I would wait until 25 before I ever started, you got plenty of hormones racing through your body and you can make great gains

What do you know about PCT?
It is the most important part of any cycle especially if you are gonna take steroids at your age !!!!!

Post up a days food intake on average and let us see what you are taking in.

[big_dom85]

Dude that suks for you... you need to just get taller or something hang upside down for awhile.... and finish 11th grade English ok

[Kratos]

your friends probably don't know dick either, I'm guessing the d-bol only was on their good advice. Don't listen to them.

[the swole patrol]

it wasnt a dbol only cylce. i did a litle of testp 100 eod
i no it was low dose but was 1st cylce, so tuk it easy.
pct- i was told nolva(the real deal) 2weeks prior goin off with clomid.and then hcg. but i took the supp. nolva bc it wasnt a big cycle.
i no i shud no more about pct, i will research more. but i no y to take pcts.
food-
2am- wate gainer,grits, cereal, together......or left over supper
5am-same
11am- same
12pm-wate shak wate shake=4scoops of icecream, nesquick,milk
after that gym
2pm-protein shake not wateganer, meal-pizza, or left over dinner,or bar
and after that just every 2-3hrs, mostly leftover supper or made somethin like a big sandwhich or hamburger helper. but all meals w a shake

[the swole patrol]

it wasnt a dbol only cylce. i did a litle of testp 100 eod
i no it was low dose but was 1st cylce, so tuk it easy.
pct- i was told nolva(the real deal) 2weeks prior goin off with clomid.and then hcg. but i took the supp. nolva bc it wasnt a big cycle.
i no i shud no more about pct, i will research more. but i no y to take pcts.
food-
2am- wate gainer,grits, cereal, together......or left over supper
5am-same
11am- same
12pm-wate shak wate shake=4scoops of icecream, nesquick,milk
after that gym
2pm-protein shake not wateganer, meal-pizza, or left over dinner,or bar
and after that just every 2-3hrs, mostly leftover supper or made somethin like a big sandwhich or hamburger helper. but all meals w a shake

[Kratos]

it wasnt a dbol only cylce. i did a litle of testp 100 eod
i no it was low dose but was 1st cylce, so tuk it easy.
pct- i was told nolva(the real deal) 2weeks prior goin off with clomid.and then hcg. but i took the supp. nolva bc it wasnt a big cycle.
i no i shud no more about pct, i will research more. but i no y to take pcts.
food-
2am- wate gainer,grits, cereal, together......or left over supper
5am-same
11am- same
12pm-wate shak wate shake=4scoops of icecream, nesquick,milk
after that gym
2pm-protein shake not wateganer, meal-pizza, or left over dinner,or bar
and after that just every 2-3hrs, mostly leftover supper or made somethin like a big sandwhich or hamburger helper. but all meals w a shake

You did your pct backwords little fella, HCG after nolva and clomid, nolva and clomid should have been after cycle not durring. You didn't do a pct.

Your diet is the worst I have ever seen posted. Your body is so hungry for real food.

[kaberle_15]

Is this for real? You're diet is awful.

[the swole patrol]

i guess. i just stuffed my face. i ate a lot of pizza and burgers for the calories and shakes for the protein. i thot it evenend out. i was still ripped from in insane metabolism
pct- like maybe 20days after cycle

[NewVader]

Your metabolism can't be higher than when I was rowing crew. A rower burns 7000 cals a day I was able to maintain 225. How you ask? I ate over 7000 cals a day. I never touched steroids until this year. Unless you have a disorder preventing you from gaining weight it isn't your metabolism. How tall/old are you, I can't even picture what 107 looks like.

How many hours a day did you row? How intense?

[Kratos]

How many hours a day did you row? How intense?

not uncommon to spend 5 hours a day at the river. Start most practices with a 3-5 mile run for warm-up. A lot of drills and less intense time spent, but a fairly good intensity. 7000 is probably on the high end/most vigorous days (I was trying to prove a point) but isn't that far off.

[NewVader]

it wasnt a dbol only cylce. i did a litle of testp 100 eod
i no it was low dose but was 1st cylce, so tuk it easy.
pct- i was told nolva(the real deal) 2weeks prior goin off with clomid.and then hcg. but i took the supp. nolva bc it wasnt a big cycle.
i no i shud no more about pct, i will research more. but i no y to take pcts.
food-
2am- wate gainer,grits, cereal, together......or left over supper
5am-same
11am- same
12pm-wate shak wate shake=4scoops of icecream, nesquick,milk
after that gym
2pm-protein shake not wateganer, meal-pizza, or left over dinner,or bar
and after that just every 2-3hrs, mostly leftover supper or made somethin like a big sandwhich or hamburger helper. but all meals w a shake

dude, where are you from? you 're not from sc are you?
Anyways if this is not a joke, you are being too empiric. you need to keep track of the calories you eat and see what works, not just stuff you with garbage...
and how's your training? how long have you been lifting?
post your routine, I bet it's far from perfect

[ottomaddox]

And you lost everything, why? because you have not been educated on how to properly eat. When your cycle ends, you've got to be even more diligent about diet and training in order to keep most of your hard earned gains. Unfortunately a diet of pizza and shakes is not going to help you with anything. Please see: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 for information on how to eat. Now you want to attempt another cycle, be smarter than that. Remember to educate before you Medicate. At 19 years old you don't need steroids, you've got plenty of natty test floating around in your veins, well maybe not a lot right now after your shoddy pct.
Good luck,
CR.
P.S. Do you know how to use a spell checker? lol

i guess. i just stuffed my face. i ate a lot of pizza and burgers for the calories and shakes for the protein. i thot it evenend out. i was still ripped from in insane metabolism
pct- like maybe 20days after cycle

[the swole patrol]

yeah im from sc. y does it sound like im not?
ok workout here goes

[the swole patrol]

mon-bi
barbell-wide
barbell-close or nuetrel
hammer-db
precher
3sets of 10,8,6

tues-legs
squat
legpress
lunges
leg curls
3sets of 10,8,6

wed-tri
close bench
dips
skull crushers
triangle push downs
and where u lift a db over ur head elbows pointing face word
same sets and reps
thurs-bak
deadlift
pullups
lat pulldowns
where u pull a triangle to u sitting down

fri-shoulders
arnold press
shoulder press
side raises
front raises

sat-off
sometimes come in and catch up missed days or just somethin twice

sun-chest
bench-wide-barbell
incline-wide-barbell
incline-db
decline-barbell-wide
incline- flyes

[ottomaddox]

Can you say overtraining, where's the rest. The body needs rest in order to grow, and proper nutrition........ too much work this late at night.......got to rest and recuperate. I'll try and help tomorrow. Tonight's homework: Visit the diet forum and read....

[the swole patrol]

ok..thanks

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

This thread was painful to read... you need to spell properly bro...not flaming, just a thought.

[the swole patrol]

i know just easier and faster

[the swole patrol]

but hey, i took 40mg ed of dbol and alittle of test p 100 for a month. for pct i just took that supp. nolvadex. am i still messed up 6months later?

[longhorn814]

but hey, i took 40mg ed of dbol and alittle of test p 100 for a month. for pct i just took that supp. nolvadex. am i still messed up 6months later?

you will be messed up for life if you keep taking steroids in a very unsafe way. You should learn how to eat cause you have no clue. Taking steroids at your age and size will just set up you up for a world of joint and tendon problems, you will mostly likely tear something and make it worse. Since you dont know how to eat, anything you might gain for steroids, you will lose when you come off. You need a lot of help..do not touch steroids again for a long time, besides your endocrine system is still developing and your messing that up with steroids..it would suck to be impotent or sterile in ten years and have to be on HRT for the rest of your life...just be aware of the potential long term side effects

[the swole patrol]

wats hrt

[the swole patrol]

well since im so young, and steroids will pretty much destroy my endocrine system, is there a way i cud take small amounts like test100, and stack it with a supplement that stimulates the nuts. that way wen the steroids are shutin me down, the supp. shud help my nuts produce. wud that be ok?
theres a supp. from getanabolics.com thats called ****bolin, and said its suppose to raise test levels like 300%. so wudnt that stack together be good, that way im not shut off completily? and wats HRT?

[Panzerfaust]

I'm sorry but this has to be a troll job here.

Is that you Tai?

[john vega]

brother man. please take this as constructive COMICAL criticism. but what a diet likethat...i wudnt be suprised if u were representing the law firm of HAGAAN N DAZZ. seriously look into proper nutrition. roids + poor diet+ OVERKILL on routine= Tommy Lee BONES with pimples all over his face that a blind man cud recire a poem off of him..