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    starting to plan for next cycle, sustanon???

    I am going to purchase my next cycle sometime in the next few weeks. Even though i wont be doing it until jan or so i want to get it while i have some money.
    I am currently on 500 test e / 480 decca
    I am not having too many sides other than acne on back/shoulders/ and a little on the chest stomach. I am growing alot and feel great so i am thinking of staying with nandrolone.

    I am thinking of running npp next cycle. If i am injecting every third day would sustanon or omnadren be better than enth? Would i get less acne? I have heard if i used prop (ed or eod) i would get less acne, is this true?

    Are the overall gains better with sus/omnadren/prop in your experience? I have read what the authors say, what do you guys think?

    Lastly, i am considering whatelse to stack with npp and some form of test for a lean bulk, what would you pick for me?
    thanks bros



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    what is npp?



    lean bulk, i wouldn't run test more than 250 mg per weak bud; unless you can get arimidex. when i say arimidex (or however you spell it) i dont mean the stuff you buy in those online janky bottles that you drink that taste like pepperment- haha. all you want is to keep your test levels stady, or else you will look like a cream puff like most steroid users. therefor, LEAN,

    sustanon is released over 4 weeks, which means your levels are steady, it may take a minute to kick in, but eventually it will. testosterone in the form of prop is unsteady and releases over three days. theoretically you want your levels as steady as possible to avoid side effects. prop is the stupidest form of test, besides suspension, there is. enanthate is good too, but remember to keep it low and steady when it comes to test.

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    keeping levels steady you will avoid those nasty side effects, pizza back, puffy and so on.

    two forms of test is stupid; they made sustanon so you wouldn't have to take it every other day- throw something like eq in or winstrol,

    here is a equation for you

    LOTS OF TEST= BLOATING, PUFFY, ZITTY, BALD, AND DUMB LOOKING LIKE MOST THE PEOPLE YOU SEE AT THE GYM WHO ARE THROWING 750 MGS OF TEST IN THEIR BODY A WEEK.

    throw eq, decca, masteron, primo, with a lil winstrol into the equation and you will have lean good results without looking like a puff ball. your recepters will only take so much! remember that

    500 mgs

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    Hey man allot of people dont care for sust, than there is a small following like myself that swears by it. I think that you should take it and maybe adjust dosage to come to your own opinion.

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    nandrolone phenyl propionate (decca with a short ester)
    Yes i have lost some definition. Tricep and lower stomach only though. Yeah i just want some real life opinions.

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    qouting you

    "keeping levels steady you will avoid those nasty side effects, pizza back, puffy and so on. "


    i am doing 1 ml (of 250) enth every 3.5 days and am trying to keep it as exact as possible. Is there somebetter way? Different ester/dosing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionairemurph
    qouting you

    "keeping levels steady you will avoid those nasty side effects, pizza back, puffy and so on. "


    i am doing 1 ml (of 250) enth every 3.5 days and am trying to keep it as exact as possible. Is there somebetter way? Different ester/dosing?
    some people get acne from test, some dont, we r all different. i think test is test and if u get acne from it u get acne from it no matter the ester, maybee im wrong and someone will correct me but that is how i understand it, gl bro!

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    i might just shoot enth eod or every thrd day. Just on steroid.com, under steroid effectivenesses omnadren (bout the same as sus) has 2 stars for "keeping gains"

    still not sure, kinda in the planning phase anyway. thanks for the help so far bro's

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles2985
    what is npp?



    lean bulk, i wouldn't run test more than 250 mg per weak bud; unless you can get arimidex. when i say arimidex (or however you spell it) i dont mean the stuff you buy in those online janky bottles that you drink that taste like pepperment- haha. all you want is to keep your test levels stady, or else you will look like a cream puff like most steroid users. therefor, LEAN,

    sustanon is released over 4 weeks, which means your levels are steady, it may take a minute to kick in, but eventually it will. testosterone in the form of prop is unsteady and releases over three days. theoretically you want your levels as steady as possible to avoid side effects. prop is the stupidest form of test, besides suspension, there is. enanthate is good too, but remember to keep it low and steady when it comes to test.
    Wow pal, i hate to rip you a new one but you need to hang aroun here alot more!
    First, 250 mgs of test will do little for most ppl except for those with really sensitive androgen receptors, or alot of them, or if they just have really low test to begin with. So this is not a dose anyone should recomend for growth. This dose however can be used to ward of sexual disfunction with 19-nors.
    Second those "Janky" bottles, i know they look cheesy, and i thought they were knockoffs also, BUT, they are real, they do work, and there are good labs making janky bottles with real stuff. Dont belive me? k. go drink 1ml of a bottle of clen, and then try to draw a straight line 20mins later! WONT HAPPEN. Still dont? K. Drink 1ml of letrozole from a bottle for a week and tell me if your still as horny and energetic as before you started. PROBLY NOT. Real stuff. Real sides...but also real results
    Prop is not unsteady. Prop is SHORT ACTING. So it peaks about a day later then falls. This makes eod, or ed desirable PROP is very predictable! It just takes more injecting. But as far as acne and bloat, i can attest and so will others it seems to be less than with long esters. Dont know why, thought it would be oppiste being fast acting, but hey. One theory is that aromatase may be able to take action before its relased from the ester. Seems weird but.
    Prop is the stupidest form of test?! Watch the way you talk buddy, thats like insulting someones kids around here! That was kinda an ignorant statement. Prop is just shorter acting. it also hurts more, which may be a reason for not using it for some. But mg for mg, there is actually more test from prop than test e, c, and the rest, except suspension. The ester weighs less on prop. So thats a plus. Also, if sides are to terrible on test for an individual, prop will give you a sooner out, unlike sust, e. or c., since its short acting. And most important, prop since its fast acting , gives results very soon, unlike E or C that may take a few weeks to build levels. Prop is in there, and bam, a day later its peaking for a day. Its imediate.
    Also, keeping it low and steady on test? Steady sure, but why low? Think about it. What steroid should you be pounding your body with in the higher doses? Some wierd steroid far diffeerent from your own hormone? Or...good old fashioned test, the stuff your body is used to already, your just gonna give it more. You know test will aromatize to estrogen, and reduce to DHT, so its predictable in that sense, and you can prepare by having proper ancillaries(a-dex, propecia). right? Right.
    Last edited by AnabolicBoy1981; 07-19-2007 at 10:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles2985
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    keeping levels steady you will avoid those nasty side effects, pizza back, puffy and so on.

    two forms of test is stupid; they made sustanon so you wouldn't have to take it every other day- throw something like eq in or winstrol,

    here is a equation for you

    LOTS OF TEST= BLOATING, PUFFY, ZITTY, BALD, AND DUMB LOOKING LIKE MOST THE PEOPLE YOU SEE AT THE GYM WHO ARE THROWING 750 MGS OF TEST IN THEIR BODY A WEEK.

    throw eq, decca, masteron, primo, with a lil winstrol into the equation and you will have lean good results without looking like a puff ball. your recepters will only take so much! remember that

    500 mgs
    test will make you all zitty and bald huh? And Masteron wont?! HA.
    With test at least you can take propecia to stop the enzymatic conversion to DHT,..Masteron IS, a DHT. Propecia wont help. So you got your berries above your twig here. Winstrol isnt always great on hair either.

    you need to read the steroid profiles section and some other litiature.

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    thankyou anabolic boy for ripping him a new one. I had a problem with about every statement in that guy's post. Sust. has to be shot eod for stable levels at the dosages bodybuilers use btw to charles for the reason it has prop in it.

    Prop goes great with NPP same half life, same injection time, starts working at the same time. It's a match made in heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos
    thankyou anabolic boy for ripping him a new one. I had a problem with about every statement in that guy's post. Sust. has to be shot eod for stable levels at the dosages bodybuilers use btw to charles for the reason it has prop in it.

    Prop goes great with NPP same half life, same injection time, starts working at the same time. It's a match made in heaven.
    like peas and carrots baby

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    so if i do npp, i should go with prop? I think i can man up and deal with the sticks. Eod? ed? Also if im at 500 test e and 480 decca now will i still get good results staying about the same levels or would you bump it some?

    What would stack well with those for a good, lean bulk? Mast p? Primo maybe? I have a friend that can get primo enth fairly cheaply. (not as cheap as mast though)

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