Dianabol & Anavar?

[DrSauce99]

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[DrSauce99]

Actually I have a source on HCG, also this is my first cycle other than one 7 years ago that was very short of DECA.

Thanks

[Kratos]

you don't need HCG for a first cycle @6 weeks
Craptastic cycle
anavar @25mg is not much
you will probably have penis probs around week 4
basically equivilent to a dbol only cycle
try some test prop @150mg eod for 6 weeks + oral of your choice either anavar @50-80mg taken in two doses or dbol @25-50 mg taken in three doses. Uses an AI entire cycle and leave nolvadex for pct.

[rabidsquirrel]

i would recomend test prop for his first cycle.

[rabidsquirrel]

also would recommend dbol, anavar cycle for first timer. or for anyone for that matter. your not going keep your gains.

[longhorn814]

25 mg of anavar is almost a chick dose!!! why even bother?

[Big]

also would recommend dbol, anavar cycle for first timer. or for anyone for that matter. your not going keep your gains.

do you mean wouldn't recommend?

[magic32]

I was looking to run a 6 week cycle of 25mg Dianabol and 25mg of anavar.
-Sky

This isn't really a cycle at all!
Are you avoiding Test for a reason?

[rabidsquirrel]

do you mean wouldn't recommend?

yeah wouldnt my bad

[needsomehelp]

I had only done var at 50 mg's until this cycle. Now I'm doing 240 of andriol with the var at 50.

Isn't d bol really strong oral and real toxic? Seems pretty hardcore for 2nd cycle. Stick with test. I've been called a wus b4 due to my conservative baby steps. PS 25 mg var a waste.

[rabidsquirrel]

its not that it is bad for a second cycle. its just not good without something like test. all cycles should include at least a small dose of test. you only keep about half the gains with dbol. most just use it as a kickstart.

[Manpretty]

WOW ok .....first off doesnt sound like buddy has done alot of research or really know anything about roid......

lets start with some stats and goal......

cycle advice could only come after this........

on top of all that there are oral cycles that work but lets hear from dude first

[Manpretty]

its not that it is bad for a second cycle. its just not good without something like test. all cycles should include at least a small dose of test. you only keep about half the gains with dbol. most just use it as a kickstart.

squak squak .....try and parrot people some more......"test in every cycle" is a very flawed way of thinking and only comes from uneducated people

[rabidsquirrel]

i will never do i cycle without test. its a base for any cycle even pros believe in use at least a hrt dose.

[rabidsquirrel]

squak squak .....try and parrot people some more......"test in every cycle" is a very flawed way of thinking and only comes from uneducated people

if your cycle history is correct then you have never done an injectable roid yet. maybe your scared of needles. dont tell someone there uneducated when dont know what your taking about. test should be anyones first cycle and be in everyone after than IMO. maybe you should do some research.

[Manpretty]

IF, yes IF, that was correct you would be right however youre wrong.....which is not a big surprise.........

and actually most pro's would tell you that the drugs you take are goal dependant.........

what if your goals differ from bodybuilding? what then? still must you take test?????

what if your are looking for aggression and strength without weight gain?? still take test????

should AIDs pacients that take anavar to prevent wasting of muscle tisssue be on test????

are you a moron rabid??? seriously who gives that kind of advice ???????

[PEWN]

is it just me or is everyone running orals only lately... seems every thread i read it is a oral only cycle... if you are going to cycle... man up and stick...

[Manpretty]

id say start eating right gain the weight back that you had (should be easy to do) then after youve done alot more research start to plan a cycle

[Manpretty]

sound to me like your a lazy F#*%

[Kansas City Boy]

there are a lot of ass holes on this board. Ive almost given up on posting anymore.... skyman is probably a previous user of this board but probably got banned... he only has 25 posts.. Im sick of hearing newbs get roasted over simple questions that would take less time to answer then they do to rip them a new ass.. Skyman you get ass of the day. lighten up a little.

[magic32]

Wow, thanks for all the help
I ask some simple questions to learn a lil more and I get roasted.
Much appreciated.

It seems to me that most of members in this thread have been trying help, not roast you (there are always exceptions). They are merely making recommendations, and questioning your reasoning for this atypical regimen.

However, if all you wanted was answers to your "simple questions", here they are:

I was looking to run a 6 week cycle of 25mg Dianabol and 25mg of anavar and then adding in Novaldex at 25mg the the last 2 weeks of the cycle and keeping on that for 4 weeks as a PCT.

Question
Do Dianabol and Anavar work well together? NO
Should I add the Novalex in earlier? NO LATER, BEGIN IT AFTER YOUR CYCLE.
I know it takes a week to get going? NOT TRUE, IT WORKS AS SOON AS IT REACHES THE ACTIVE SITE. IT TAKES MORE TIME TO BUILD UP TO OPTIMAL LEVELS, BUT SHOUDN'T BE RUN DURING CYCLE BECAUSE IT CAN HAMPER IT.

Also should I add in anthing else to my PCT? NO
Clomid? NO
I can't seem to get a source on HCG. SORRY.

Any other advice appreciated. Thanks guys. YOUR WELCOME.

Looking to get some good gains here and hold on to them with out anymore cycles. YOU SHOULD.

-Sky

[Kansas City Boy]

skyman im sorry buddy i meant manpretty. sorry about that.. i was taking your back

[Dog-Slime]

If your set on doing oral only try tbol + var.

[Manpretty]

look man there are things you should know before starting a thread....you dont know them........

you wanna plan an oral cycle great.......id help you out if i thiought you were ready....

i still think your lazy and if you think roids are gonna help you your wrong....

you still need to put alot of effort in when cycling and i just dont see your dedication .....i mean you havent even bothered to search for other threads about oral cycles....

it almost like you are flaming yourself by posting a thread like this come back once you are a bit more dedicated.

[Manpretty]

skyman im sorry buddy i meant manpretty. sorry about that.. i was taking your back

ass whatever you call it....by backing this guy up....youve just ruined your credibility....nice work

i hope no one takes advice from you....it would be a mistake

[Kratos]

Thank you. Well I was looking to get some info on my "Atypical cycle" I have read all the roid profiles here and was looking to get some real work info from people using. I was told what not to do, but not what to do.

I guess I will go with Dbol to start finish up with novaldex and see how that gets me.
Maybe running anavar later to hold on to some gains and cut up woudl be a good idea?

Thanks

get a little further into your recovery and then plan a propper cycle. You are going to have to stab yourself with a needle for optimum results with your goals. a million treads on why to not do a d-bol only cycle.

[Lunacy]

Thank you. Well I was looking to get some info on my "Atypical cycle" I have read all the roid profiles here and was looking to get some real work info from people using. I was told what not to do, but not what to do.

I guess I will go with Dbol to start finish up with novaldex and see how that gets me.

Maybe running anavar later to hold on to some gains and cut up woudl be a good idea?

Thanks

Please dont do a dbol only cycle. DONT!

[tadpoleboyy]

i wouldnt call him lazy because he wants to get back to where he was. I dont really believe you can judge how "dedicated" one is by merely looking at a post on a forum without even knowing the person. If i read your last posts correctly, you had crohns, which is pretty serious. I can relate, i had an episode 2 years ago where i couldnt eat and dropped 20 lbs in 3 weeks. If fu cking sucks to lose months of progress like that to something you cannot control, and then have to spend months more just to get back where you were. I think he is justified in taking steroids.

Anyway, if your looking to keep size and never cycle again, orals wont do it. I did do a dbol only cycle my first time educated as to what would happen. I kept a lot of the strength, but maybe only half the size. I am currently using EQ right now, because i have bad GERD, and the results are amazing, i chose it specifically for appetite enhancing effects. You might want to consider if your crohns is killing your appetite, although that may not be the case. Also i guess not everyone gets the fat pregnant bitch hunger that i am experiencing. But you should prob use an injectable. EQ is pretty mild too, shouldnt mess w your temper, but your may wana throw a bit of test in or u may start to get weird sides (lack of libido). Im running hrt test w it.

[rabidsquirrel]

IF, yes IF, that was correct you would be right however youre wrong.....which is not a big surprise.........

and actually most pro's would tell you that the drugs you take are goal dependant.........

what if your goals differ from bodybuilding? what then? still must you take test?????

what if your are looking for aggression and strength without weight gain?? still take test????

should AIDs pacients that take anavar to prevent wasting of muscle tisssue be on test????

are you a moron rabid??? seriously who gives that kind of advice ???????

i was answering his question correctly. hes not an aids pacient, he is a guy trying to build muscle and keep it. so d-bol only is not what he wants. he is bodybuilding so his goal arent differing. and test can be used for cutting as well as bulking, and it can raise aggression. and it pretty hard to gain alot of strength without weight gain. so are you a moron manpretty

[Manpretty]

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ARE YOU SSHHHIIITTTTING ME TAD?

so let me get this straight you are diagnosing him with crohns....are you a doctor? do you have any medical backround......... you said and i quote

"dont really believe you can judge how "dedicated" one is by merely looking at a post on a forum without even knowing the person"

and now you are telling him he has chrones HAHHAHAHAHAHA you are a moron

[Manpretty]

i was answering his question correctly. hes not an aids pacient, he is a guy trying to build muscle and keep it. so d-bol only is not what he wants. he is bodybuilding so his goal arent differing. and test can be used for cutting as well as bulking, and it can raise aggression. and it pretty hard to gain alot of strength without weight gain. so are you a moron manpretty

not exactly dude.....halo? heard of it? no didnt think so.....strength no weight

and my point was that you were recommending cycles to a guy that you didnt know anything about.....turns out he is in to bb but you didnt know that at the time of your responce

[Manpretty]

i was answering his question correctly.

and no you werent you were claiming test MUST be in every cycle ....and thats wrong

and you were only right about his goals by chance seeing as how you didnt ask nor did he state them

[rabidsquirrel]

and no you werent you were claiming test MUST be in every cycle ....and thats wrong

and you were only right about his goals by chance seeing as how you didnt ask nor did he state them

he wrote :
Looking to get some good gains here and hold on to them with out anymore cycles.

-Sky

and almost everyone runs test in all there cycles. you dont have to, but most other compounds are gonna f**k your li**o up so test is always recommended.

[Manpretty]

he wrote :
Looking to get some good gains here and hold on to them with out anymore cycles.

-Sky

and almost everyone runs test in all there cycles. you dont have to, but most other compounds are gonna f**k your li**o up so test is always recommended.

ok ill approach this a different way instead of flaming you again

why do you think that gains are more easily kept from injectables?

[Kratos]

his other thread tells his life story, he does have chrones. I agree cycles are goal dependent, for his goals oral only is not most efficent.

[tadpoleboyy]

no im not "SSHHHIIITTTTING" you, he says in two other posts he has crohns. People do die from crohns. You obviously have no knowledge or experience with any sort of ailment like this, or it wouldnt be such a joke to you. grow up man.

[Dog-Slime]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

ARE YOU SSHHHIIITTTTING ME TAD?

so let me get this straight you are diagnosing him with crohns....are you a doctor? do you have any medical backround......... you said and i quote

"dont really believe you can judge how "dedicated" one is by merely looking at a post on a forum without even knowing the person"

and now you are telling him he has chrones HAHHAHAHAHAHA you are a moron

He does have crohns, he stated this in a thread the other day...

Like I said earlier if you wanna oral only cycle do tbol and var. Tbol @ 50mgs and Var @ 60mgs. I think this is a good oral cycle but you still may not accomplish what you are wanting. Your best bet is a cycle of test. Much cheaper and much more effective (for weight gain).

[Manpretty]

ok this keeps getting better and better.....well due to the fact you have chrones (which you should state everytime you post a thread BTW)

im going to go back on what i said and argee with some of these idiots

if you were to cycle your best bet is to inject, IM NOT RECOMMENDING THATk

look man you need to understand why im calling yuou lazy, and why you arent ready to cycle.

1) you are asking questions that you should know it you are goin to be using AAS

2)you lost weight due to and outburst of crones eh? well i can tell you aas increases the chance you will have another one of those outbursts.

3) for someone with a problem like that you should be reading untill you cant anymore know EVERYTHING so nothing is a suprise.... you just dont sound like you are being smart abou this...

4) if you look at the responces your getting people that just started on here are anwsering your questions with the anwsers you want to hear therefor you are tending to listen to them, im not saying what you want so your not listening

5)whether or not you have chrones your still not ready to cycle

your appitite sucks try b12

anyway you probably arent goin to listen to me so whatever.....YOU ARENT READY

[Mista Massive]

Thanks to all those that helped, I think I got what I am going to run nailed down. I am going to post it shortly.

yes, I have crohns.

Yes since of the prednisone my appetite sucks, and my energy level is crappy. I am bumping my HGH up a little for a while.

I am lazy? Maybe. I plan to GET BACK TO where I was before I start this cycle, or very close to it.

I been lifting on and off since I was 16, and no I havn't had perfect consistancy or eating, but I've lived a real world life with long work days, stress, and all the other things life throws in to the mix. I wind up at best around 175-180 at 5-6% body fat naturally. So I want to get past that and hold on to it. Id love to be 195 at 5% and hold there naturally from there on out, thats my goal.

Thanks
Sky

i feel your pain of losing hard earned muscle and weight due to sickness as i have just recently experinced the same thing.

the idea of cycling to get yourself back doesn't seem all that silly as it is a very hard thing to deal with, mentally. however, it does seem as though your knowledge with AAS is lacking and could do with a bit more research before you decide on which compounds to run with what dosages and lengths.

no one expects you to learn it all, cos we are always learning. just get the basics down, and you'll do fine.

good luck

[convalescence69]

sound to me like your a lazy F#*%

chill out man, we are all friends here lookin to help eachother out