tbol, sus, deca

[john vega]

greetings and salutations gentlemen. another manic monday!!! how are u bros. im okay. just looking for sum advice..
i am 5 feet 8 and 195 pounds. 2 cycles as experience under belt. enan, eq, dbol prop. im looking to attain lean bulk/lean mass...

i currently have 100 tabs of t-bol
2 10 ml bottles of sus-350 from a ugl
2 10 mls of deca ugl

since i hear tbol works well from 5-6 weeks..for um even 7 and 8. i cant get more than the 100 i have now. so to stretch it out i managed to devise it like this.

weeks1-5 t-bol 60 mgs ed on training days/40 mgs a day non-training days. i understand it has a 12 hour half life..or am i wrong. if so, i cant see why taking 40 mgs on non-training days wouldnt still keep blood plasma levels high.
weeks...doing it this way..the math wud have me using 95 pills with 5 left over.

weeks-1-12 sus 350- half of cc eod since its not the sus 250 and by shooting sus 350 eod..id be overflooding by body with juice and dont want the reputation of a newbie.LOL

weeks1-10 deca 300..half of cc eod..

ai on hand-nolva in case of gyno sensitivity..anthony roberts pct to run 18 days after sus 350 injection. does this sound kosher..and one last thing. i undertsand aramosin is part of the anthony roberts pct..but im having a hard time gettin it..i have hcg...nolva..and clomid. and the vitamin e in the best form. tocotrienol..(mixed tocepherols)...can i substitue the aramsoin for the clomid. or sumtin else..

thankx guyz for all responses. i will be competing in the next few months. i will keep every 1 updated in the members cycling results forum. im just hoping this cycles is set up the correct way in every 1's opinion.

[kfrost06]

greetings and salutations gentlemen. another manic monday!!! how are u bros. im okay. just looking for sum advice..
i am 5 feet 8 and 195 pounds. 2 cycles as experience under belt. enan, eq, dbol prop. im looking to attain lean bulk/lean mass...

i currently have 100 tabs of t-bol
2 10 ml bottles of sus-350 from a ugl
2 10 mls of deca ugl

since i hear tbol works well from 5-6 weeks..for um even 7 and 8. i cant get more than the 100 i have now. so to stretch it out i managed to devise it like this.

weeks1-5 t-bol 60 mgs ed on training days/40 mgs a day non-training days. i understand it has a 12 hour half life..or am i wrong. if so, i cant see why taking 40 mgs on non-training days wouldnt still keep blood plasma levels high.
weeks...doing it this way..the math wud have me using 95 pills with 5 left over.

weeks-1-12 sus 350- half of cc eod since its not the sus 250 and by shooting sus 350 eod..id be overflooding by body with juice and dont want the reputation of a newbie.LOL

weeks1-10 deca 300..half of cc eod..

ai on hand-nolva in case of gyno sensitivity..anthony roberts pct to run 18 days after sus 350 injection. does this sound kosher..and one last thing. i undertsand aramosin is part of the anthony roberts pct..but im having a hard time gettin it..i have hcg...nolva..and clomid. and the vitamin e in the best form. tocotrienol..(mixed tocepherols)...can i substitue the aramsoin for the clomid. or sumtin else..

thankx guyz for all responses. i will be competing in the next few months. i will keep every 1 updated in the members cycling results forum. im just hoping this cycles is set up the correct way in every 1's opinion.

I don't see the need to inject deca EOD, it has a long half life and 2x week is good enough. I personally prefer deca for 12 weeks because it takes so long to "kick in". I know some people take their orals all at once or on work out days but I am old school and believe in keeping the blood levels constant. GL

[john vega]

thankx man. good advice about the deca. must of went over my head by 2 weekx. LOL but my question 2u brother is...wud 400 mgs of deca ew be sufficient enough. since its 300 mgs per ml...cud i go a little more than a half a cc mon and thurs.. or if i came this far...shud i just go 1cc mon/thurs giving it a 600 mgs per week load. im pre-disposed to male pattern baldness.. so im trying to be meticulous about that and dont know if deca aggravates this condition. any suggestions or comments..all welcome about this matter and my proposed cycle above. thanks to all...

[kfrost06]

thankx man. good advice about the deca. must of went over my head by 2 weekx. LOL but my question 2u brother is...wud 400 mgs of deca ew be sufficient enough. since its 300 mgs per ml...cud i go a little more than a half a cc mon and thurs.. or if i came this far...shud i just go 1cc mon/thurs giving it a 600 mgs per week load. im pre-disposed to male pattern baldness.. so im trying to be meticulous about that and dont know if deca aggravates this condition. any suggestions or comments..all welcome about this matter and my proposed cycle above. thanks to all...

I don't know your cycle history but 400mg/wk of Deca works great for me, 2/3cc 2x/week. I not sure how Deca effects MPB, I know the DHTs like winny, anavar, masteron are very bad for baldness. I am lucky in that none of them bother me. The deca and test(sus) are awesome for growth and strength and taking tbol will "kick start" your cycle. GL

[john vega]

kfrost..u r the man. thankx bro for the lnfo....didnt know var causes male pattern baldness. didnt even know anavar was a dht derivative. kfrost..how wud u take the deca at 300 mgs twice per week to accomplish 400 mgs for the weeks dosage.. its sus-350...

[john vega]

meaning the deca is 300 mgs per cc. sorry i didnt indicate that. didnt mean to confuse u bro. and the tbol as a kickstart ..i only have 100 pills. is 4 weeks worth tbol suffice for a kickstart. i plan on taking 60 mgs ed. they are 20 mgs per pill. once i did the math....thats 21 pills ed for 7 days a week. ill only get 5 weekx worth. is this enough time 4 tbol to work being its less stronger than dbol...

[kfrost06]

here's what I would do, I would take 0.7cc Deca 2x/week(e.g. Monday 0.7cc and Thursday 0.7cc) this comes to a little more than 400mgs/wk but better than trying to draw 0.67cc. You should start feeling the tbol almost right away, by day 3-4 you'll feel it in the gym. I like to keep the "kick start" at 4 weeks, by then the deca and the sus will be working and taking over. You can keep the extra tbol for your next cycle. Also make sure you do the sus for one week more then the deca, the deca has a longer half life. So deca for 12 weeks and sus for 13 weeks. Then wait another 2 weeks and start your PCT. I hope this helps.

[john vega]

it does kfrost. thank u for insight bro. greatly appreciated.