C Bino Gyno reversal how long @ 2.5m

**roodogg** · 07-27-2007, 12:19 PM

I am experiencing delayed gyno from mass tabs started letro according to c bino's routine. I have read in a profile that letro takes 60 days to stabilize most feel only 2 weeks. I also read that 2.5mg's should not be run for more than two weeks and then u should begin the taper. Others say to stay @ 2.5until lump is gone. I am interested to find out how long u guys have been on 2.5 mg's until symptoms were gone

**C_Bino** · 07-27-2007, 01:11 PM

Just run it as long as you are staying healthy. Get blood work done as I always suggest and judge for yourself in terms of how your joints etc are feeling. I have run letro for long periods of time with no ill effects.

**roodogg** · 07-27-2007, 01:39 PM

thanks again tit

**roodogg** · 07-27-2007, 01:45 PM

is it recommended to run support supps while on letro i.e. ryr, hawthorn berry coq10?

**roodogg** · 07-30-2007, 12:35 PM

I am starting my 2nd week of c bino's gyno revesal protocol. I plan on adding test e 500mg frontload and run 250mg for 8 weeks while on letro for reversal. I was also thinking of throwin in 3 weeks of sd as well. should i drop the sd and just focus on gyno reversal? Any thoughts?

**dirtball_619** · 07-30-2007, 01:36 PM

i got gyno after a mass tabs cycle too.... and now im just living with it lol its slowly but surely getting better. its been less than two months and i can still see it but almost un noticeable

**bpm1** · 07-30-2007, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by roodogg

I am starting my 2nd week of c bino's gyno revesal protocol. I plan on adding test e 500mg frontload and run 250mg for 8 weeks while on letro for reversal. I was also thinking of throwin in 3 weeks of sd as well. should i drop the sd and just focus on gyno reversal? Any thoughts?

id wait till ur done with the letro, it can eff with ur gains IMO or at least it did with me

**Big Man Ati** · 07-30-2007, 06:44 PM

Good post as i have/had the same question.

I too wanted to know how long it is "safe" to take or recommend to take.

Good replies too.

I'm on my 8th day today, started at .5mg and up too 2.5mg

**roodogg** · 07-31-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by bpm1

id wait till ur done with the letro, it can eff with ur gains IMO or at least it did with me

i am planning on test to protect against the letro sides i.e. loss of libido and i know that 250mg's a week will not give me gains, but I thought about using sd while on test for the gains and hope that while on letro the sd would not affect gyno

**bpm1** · 07-31-2007, 12:37 PM

test will not help the loss of libido from letro as it is due to low estrogen levels not low test levels, i was on 500mg of test ew and had ZERO sex drive, dont waste ur money/gear

**roodogg** · 08-01-2007, 01:27 PM

well I am nine days in and 5 days in at max dose and tenderness is gone and the lumps are getting smaller

**roodogg** · 11-26-2007, 02:02 PM

just an update. I went to the Doc today because my symptoms returned and i had some discharge. My nips were killing me and When I squeezed some fluid came out. He said there is no mass, but when the nips are overstimulated i.e. shirt rubbing up against them they can lactate a bit. He is going to check my FSH/LH, Testosterone , free test, prolactin, etc. I thought for sure he would say Gyno, but the word was never mentioned. My areola's are a little enlarged or swollen which is the part that freaks me out. I went to him to see if he could convince my insurance that surgery is required, but I guess he wants tests done first

**topnotch** · 11-26-2007, 02:12 PM

did you run tren or deca along w/ your cycle at all? sounds more like progesterone gyno imo

**roodogg** · 11-26-2007, 02:30 PM

No! I've run test, drol, winny in the past and never had any problems. I tried masstabs and this was my first experience with ph's which are not suppose to aromatize. This made me think it was progesterone to me as well. The letro worked,but I couldn't handle 2.5mg's for more than a month so I tapered down and than ran clomid and aromasin to combat estro rebound. I was thinking caber, but I decided to hold off. some people have had luck with nolva only as well

**duramaxedge** · 11-26-2007, 05:16 PM

I just started my cycle out of town, and left my letro at home.. Im on Tren ace and prop .. I am super gyno prone.. and yes they got puffy and soar.. pretty bad really.. im running 2.0mg day and mine has already started going down amazingly after 4 days..

**roodogg** · 12-03-2007, 01:38 PM

got some of my results in from the lab

Testosterone 481
Free 13.4

I am still waiting of the prolactin/hormone results

I don't know why, but my swelling has gone down a lot and the lumps are a lot smaller as well. My nips are almost back to their normal size

**roodogg** · 12-05-2007, 09:15 AM

Ok now I am confused. Got some bloodwork back

cholesterol 189
HDl 39
LDL 131
BP 120/80
testosterone 481
free 13.4
FSH 2.7
LH 2.8
TSH 2.8
prolactin? not sure but they said it was normal

I don't know what caused my nips to flare up, but the swelling has gone down and the pain in lessened and I still have some lumps. I really don't want to go back on letro and I don't know if I should bother with nolva right now. Any comments on my bloodwork or advice?