HELP with cycle

[Footballer2]

6'4 230 20 years old already ran tren e winny var and gh and test e next cycle i want to run....

HGH 4 iu's ed for 10 weeks
test prop eod 50 mg eod
tren a eod at 50 mg eod
clen ed 200 mg a day
var 75mg ed

i have 50ml bottle of test prop
2 10 ml bottles of tren
and a bottle of var pills cant remeber how much is in them
and 3 bottles of luquiclen from ******

I really am looking to cut and gain strenght if someone thinks this cycle needs work im def open to any assistance

o ya like 12% bf...bench 395...squat 585...and clean 365...

[hugovsilva]

The prop and tren dosages are too low.
I find the dosage for clen too high.
Are you running all the compounds for 10 weeks?

[Kratos]

6'4 230 20 years old already ran tren e winny var and gh and test e next cycle i want to run....

HGH 4 iu's ed for 10 weeks Ten weeks too short for HGH, 6months min
test prop eod 50 mg eod very low
tren a eod at 50 mg eod 75mg eod min, what weeks?
clen ed 200 mg a dayThat's the worst plan for running clen I have seen
var 75mg ed which weeks? all?

i have 50ml bottle of test prop
2 10 ml bottles of tren
and a bottle of var pills cant remeber how much is in them
and 3 bottles of luquiclen from ******

I really am looking to cut and gain strenght if someone thinks this cycle needs work im def open to any assistance

o ya like 12% bf...bench 395...squat 585...and clean 365...

Cycle needs much fine tunning, and where is pct?

[lightwaytbaby]

6'4 230 20 years old already ran tren e winny var and gh and test e next cycle i want to run....

HGH 4 iu's ed for 10 weeks
test prop eod 50 mg eod
tren a eod at 50 mg eod
clen ed 200 mg a day
var 75mg ed

i have 50ml bottle of test prop
2 10 ml bottles of tren
and a bottle of var pills cant remeber how much is in them
and 3 bottles of luquiclen from ******

I really am looking to cut and gain strenght if someone thinks this cycle needs work im def open to any assistance

o ya like 12% bf...bench 395...squat 585...and clean 365...

test is too low, tren is too low, and prob should not run it, this being your secound cycle, and 4iu's of gh for 10 weeks aint gonna do shit, if your trying to put on muscle.and what are you doing for pct?

[Footballer2]

should i run them shorter with a higher doseage? any suggestions as to what this cycle would look like if done right...pct is nolva and hcg for 6 weeks

[Mrbaseball]

The clen should be tapered up, start with a lower dose and every few days up the dose until you reach your max. Which I wouldnt recommend 200mg. Another note is you should only run it 2 on then take 2 off unless you run an antihistamine (benadryl) every 3rd week at 50mg day.

[hugovsilva]

should i run them shorter with a higher doseage? any suggestions as to what this cycle would look like if done right...pct is nolva and hcg for 6 weeks

HGH 4 iu's ed for 10 weeks (normally ran longer. depends on your goals)
1-10:test prop 100 mg eod
1-8: tren a 100 mg eod
clen ed (you must try your tolerance tapering up until 120mcg or so, then every 3rd week do 7 days of 50mg benadryl ed)
1-10: var 75mg ed

Pct sucks:
3 days after last shot of prop.

1-3: HCG 500iu ed
1-4:aromasin 25mg ed
1-6:nolva 20mg ed

[JackBauer]

isnt HGH ran usually about 20 weeks?

[hugovsilva]

6 months to see minimum results regarding muscle gain. If the goal is fatloss I have seen decent results in 2 months with a rather low dosage.

[JackBauer]

really... thats interesting.. have you personally ran this hugo? not being a smartass... just curious because i have heard mixed opinions as 5-10 ius daily to see any result to 2 ius EOD but the general concensus is that it needs to be run about 20 weeks+

[hugovsilva]

I have not run HGH yet. I have friends that ran it 10 weeks, 5 days on 2 off at around 4iu a day, and noticed fatloss and that they could slack a bit on their diet without making damage.

They were all disapointed though, because they expected huge muscle gains due to the price of the stuff.

IMO, one should be aware of what to expect from HGH or will be disapointed like my friends.

[JackBauer]

yeah i will say that hugo, i was looking at a thread in the HGH IGF section earlier and there was someone saying that HGH is great but it will never be like AAS in the muscle building aspect. Great results and low sides but it all depends what your looking for i guess. Cost effectiveness comes into play a lot and some people just dont want to pay that much to do HGH. I reallly would like to run a cycle but have yet to run into a UGL that supplies it. BTW your pretty F***in ripped in that avi bro

[hugovsilva]

Looking bigger and more ripped right now at 6,5% bf, but at the end of the cycle Thanks bro.

[Footballer2]

is that too much test to try and cut bf? but omg thanks for all the cycle help guys..guess i need to read alot more