Need some Help As Soon As Possible!!

[SilverToungedDevil]

So i started a 12 week cycle of test cyp and deca running the cyp at 500 a week and the deca at 450 a week, shots every 3.5 days. about six weeks in i wasn't seeing the gains at all. reluctantly decided i had under-dosed bull shiit, so i scrapped the cycle b/c i didn't want to waste my time and money.

So THE QUESTION is... do i need to do a full on anthony roberts style pct (aromasin,nolv,hcg,vit E)for that short of a cycle at that low of a dose or could i get away with something less intense and keep my pct supplies for the next cycle? i wanna keep what little gains that i got and avoid any crashing. need some good advice and suggestions. thanks in advance!! cheers

[SilverToungedDevil]

bump... anyone??

[perfectbeast2001]

what gains did you make? Did you notice any changes in libido ect? Do you know for sure the gear was underdosed? It may have been totally inert or it may have been good gear but you didnt get the results you expected.

[Big]

Is this the same cycle you mention in this thread, where you were seeing gains by the second week?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306762

[BuffDJ]

I agree it may be something else. Hows your diet & workout plan? If you already scrapped it then do you full pct.
Buff

[SilverToungedDevil]

yea its the same cycle.... i realized that the gains that i had early were mostly due to my ridiculous increase in calories and psychotic lifting. lol i leaned down ridiculously before i started the cycle.. i'm not saying there was nothting in the mix. but they were from a ugl and i think they were just underdosed. over the period of time i saw about 10lbs of gain and an avg. increase in strength. honestly not any different than i have gotten from just eating and creatine. it was my virgin cycle but i have studied and been around the stuff long enough that i know what i should of been seeing at that point especially since my diet and workouts were solid as a rock.. and of course no drinking or partying the entire time. but i was just curious if because of the short amount of time that i was on the stuff, if i needed to use up all my pct gear... or if i could get away with less and save it for another cyce down the road you know??

[ottomaddox]

How about getting some bloodwork done, I think that would give you the most accurate readings of what is going on in your body.
Peace,
CR

[SilverToungedDevil]

thats a good call otto. i think i'll get on that

[Big]

yeah I'll second that on bloodwork, if you didn't want to then I would say run the full pct just to be safe, but bloodwork really is the way to go.