New Upcoming Cycle...Suggestions, Comments

**moush** · 07-30-2007, 09:56 AM

Hey bros, whats goin on...havent posted in a while been busy with work, my car, and most importantly my dieting.

Well i have decided I want to run a cycle...heres what im looking at

wk 3-15 Anavar 60 mg/wk
wk 1-13 Test E 800 mg/wk
wk 1-12 Eq 800 mg/wk OR wk 1-12 Deca 600-800 mg/wk

Along with all necessary support supplements...

Followed by proper PCT...

What do you guys think? What should I change? I plan on running this for a lean bulk during the winter.

**domeyeahaigh** · 07-30-2007, 09:56 AM

goals are to cut?

**testisbest** · 07-30-2007, 10:04 AM

Cycle looks good but I'd switch out the var for masteron enanthate so you'll save some money.

**moush** · 07-30-2007, 10:21 AM

yes goals are to cut although ive been cutting for the past 9 months...i have a thread called my transformation in the member pics area check it out...

testisbest i would love to use mast enan but my source does not carry it...

**NightPhantom** · 07-30-2007, 08:20 PM

moush,
I'm new, but reading about anavar cycles, most seem to be taking 50-60 mg ED, are you only taking that a week? or was that a typo? Also, when taking var are you taking the entire dose at once or splitting it throughout the day? Trying to learn also...

**lightwaytbaby** · 07-30-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by moush

Hey bros, whats goin on...havent posted in a while been busy with work, my car, and most importantly my dieting.

Well i have decided I want to run a cycle...heres what im looking at

wk 3-15 Anavar 60 mg/wk
wk 1-13 Test E 800 mg/wk
wk 1-12 Eq 800 mg/wk OR wk 1-12 Deca 600-800 mg/wk

Along with all necessary support supplements...

Followed by proper PCT...

What do you guys think? What should I change? I plan on running this for a lean bulk during the winter.

-why the anavar longer thaN the test?(hopefully thats ed not weekly)
-if deca, stop at week 10, if doing test for 12 wks...

**moush** · 07-31-2007, 08:13 AM

yes i meant 60mg/day...running the anavar longer so it helps maintain gains esp since its not a harsh oral.

yea i was going to run the deca this way...

wk 1-13 Test E @ 800mg
wk 1-11 Deca @ 800mg

**testisbest** · 07-31-2007, 08:19 AM

Good luck, I hate the sides I get with 500mg+ of deca . Are you keeping a log? I'd love to see how the var helps out.

**moush** · 07-31-2007, 09:09 AM

what sides u get from 500+mg of deca

**lightwaytbaby** · 07-31-2007, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by moush

yes i meant 60mg/day...running the anavar longer so it helps maintain gains esp since its not a harsh oral.

yea i was going to run the deca this way...

wk 1-13 Test E @ 800mg
wk 1-11 Deca @ 800mg

anavar will shut you down once you discontinue the test, how much longer are you gonna run the var longer than the test?

**testisbest** · 07-31-2007, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by moush

what sides u get from 500+mg of deca

Same as I got with tren . Horrible night sweats, insomina, and mood swings. I don't think the gains get much better with more than 500mg a week especially if you consider the sides especially with almost a gram of test weekly. But everyone is different, I just didn't like the way I felt and my wife almost made us go to marriage counseling so I dropped the dose to 500 and things went smooth. Just took my last shot from that cycle last week.

**moush** · 07-31-2007, 09:56 AM

well ive decided to make some changes in my upcoming cycle...

heres what i can use...

Masteron E
Tren E
Primo E

With TEST E @ 750mg/wk

Which would you choose and why? would you stack any together? what dosages and durations?

**tony540i** · 08-01-2007, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by moush

well ive decided to make some changes in my upcoming cycle...

heres what i can use...

Masteron E
Tren E
Primo E

With TEST E @ 750mg/wk

Which would you choose and why? would you stack any together? what dosages and durations?

with the test e, i would run the masteron and tren...don't really think its necessary to use the primo (basicly primo and masteron essentially do the same thing, i prefer mast over primo, def. think its better...JMO) also the good thing about tren e vs. the tren a is that rather than shoot lets say 75 mgs ED, u can just shoot 2x per wk., hell of alot better than feeling like a pin cusion, as well as being able to run it for a couple weeks longer! so basicly your cycle might look like this:

Test E @ 750mg/wk
Tren E @ 400mg/wk
Mast E @ 400mg/wk

good luck!

**testisbest** · 08-01-2007, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by tony540i

with the test e, i would run the masteron and tren ...don't really think its necessary to use the primo (basicly primo and masteron essentially do the same thing, i prefer mast over primo, def. think its better...JMO) also the good thing about tren e vs. the tren a is that rather than shoot lets say 75 mgs ED, u can just shoot 2x per wk., hell of alot better than feeling like a pin cusion, as well as being able to run it for a couple weeks longer! so basicly your cycle might look like this:

Test E @ 750mg/wk
Tren E @ 400mg/wk
Mast E @ 400mg/wk

good luck!

Looks good, you can even up the mast dosage if you want.

**moush** · 08-01-2007, 07:58 AM

well im planning on running it like this...

Test E @ 750 mg/wk for 14 weeks
Tren E @ 600mg/wk for 10 weeks
Mast E @ 600mg/wk for 14 weeks

**testisbest** · 08-01-2007, 08:16 AM

That's gonna be a good one. Good luck.

**moush** · 08-01-2007, 09:15 AM

sweet i am definitely excited to start it up.

During cycle i will have nolva on hand (although not prone to gyno), cholesterol supps, liver supps
PCT will be myogenx, cyogenx, clomid, nolva, creatine...anything else needed??

**testisbest** · 08-01-2007, 09:20 AM

Yea, that's a good bit of tren so you'll want something incase you come across prolactin problems. And maybe something for the prostate since you're running a DHT for 3.5 months. I never did but everybody's different and that is one of the possible sides. I've never been on tren any higher than 350mg a week so I don't know what the chances of prolactin buildup would be so I'd have some caber (dostinex) on hand but if you've been on that much before then it shouldn't be an issue.

PCT- I'd consider hcg for the last 2 or 3 weeks before pct and get some aromatisin.

**moush** · 08-01-2007, 01:23 PM

i ran tren e my last cycle @ 500mg/wk and i had no probs but ill have caber on hand along with nolva...

do you run aromasin during PCT or during the cycle? and at what dosage?

**Selene** · 08-01-2007, 01:36 PM

Looks very good and you've been given other suggestions.

good luck to you with cycle

**Kratos** · 08-01-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by moush

i ran tren e my last cycle @ 500mg/wk and i had no probs but ill have caber on hand along with nolva...

do you run aromasin during PCT or during the cycle? and at what dosage?

I would save aromasin for pct as it is more expensive then letro or arimidex . Pick one ai to run durring the cycle up until pct, and don't use nolvadex to combat tren related gyno, it can make it worse. Some people say you don't even need to run an ai durring cycle unless you are gyno prone, but I don't like the idea of estrogen getting too far above physiologic, up to you. Aromasin kills the enzyme so no estrogen rebound which is why it is a better choice durring pct as well as behaving well in conjunction with serms. 20-25mg.

**mickdiesel** · 08-01-2007, 02:01 PM

does nobody else think that running an oral that long (no matter how mild) is a bad idea? uneccesary to me. I'd run it the first and last 4 weeks @ 60-80mg/ed. everything else looks great though. I wish I could run 19-nor's, my body flips shit when I use 19-nor's. both deca and npp reeked havoc in my body. tren would prob be even worse, not doin it again. enough about me, good luck

**testisbest** · 08-01-2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by moush

i ran tren e my last cycle @ 500mg/wk and i had no probs but ill have caber on hand along with nolva...

do you run aromasin during PCT or during the cycle? and at what dosage?

You won't need an ai during the cycle with masterone. If you don't have aromasin already and have ameridex then just use that post cycle.

**moush** · 08-01-2007, 03:54 PM

i dont have my pct stuff yet im doing the research before i buy stuff i may not need...i will buy aromasin for pct...

**tony540i** · 08-02-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by moush

well im planning on running it like this...

Test E @ 750 mg/wk for 14 weeks
Tren E @ 600mg/wk for 10 weeks
Mast E @ 600mg/wk for 14 weeks

GOOD LUCK!

**RBD85** · 08-02-2007, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by moush

well im planning on running it like this...

Test E @ 750 mg/wk for 14 weeks
Tren E @ 600mg/wk for 10 weeks
Mast E @ 600mg/wk for 14 weeks

Havent even started my upcoming cycle yet but this cycle will be my next cycle I cant wait! Im doing 2 inj. daily with prop, mast. p, & igf-1 so the cycle your doing will be nice for a change. You doing 1 or 2 inj. a week?

**moush** · 08-02-2007, 03:44 PM

2 shots a week 3.25ml each

**Sir Lifts-a-lot** · 08-02-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by moush

well ive decided to make some changes in my upcoming cycle...

heres what i can use...

Masteron E
Tren E
Primo E

With TEST E @ 750mg/wk

Which would you choose and why? would you stack any together? what dosages and durations?

Tren E. Although I have never made it through a full tren cycle due to some sides I loved the results I did get while on it. Next I would say Mast. Stuff is nasty!

**moush** · 08-03-2007, 09:30 AM

Im actually using Tren E and Mast E

**taiboxa** · 08-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by moush

Im actually using Tren E and Mast E

it will be one of ur fav cycles ever.

**RBD85** · 08-03-2007, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

it will be one of ur fav cycles ever.

Now im really excited... if tai says its good you know its good!

**moush** · 08-03-2007, 01:26 PM

hey tai - could you elaborate from experience?? what were your gains from it? what did you like/dislike about it?

**taiboxa** · 08-03-2007, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by moush

hey tai - could you elaborate from experience?? what were your gains from it? what did you like/dislike about it?

anything w/ tren + dht = fun.. gains? psh unanswerable.
u shud get stronger/harder/leaner as far as HOW MUCH .. depends on how long you been lifting/genetics/diet/and eveyrthing else under the sun.

**Njord** · 08-03-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

it will be one of ur fav cycles ever.

For this cycle would it in your opinion matter if the test is run at 500mg/week, or just run ata a hrt dosage of lets say 125mg/week?

**taiboxa** · 08-03-2007, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Njord

For this cycle would it in your opinion matter if the test is run at 500mg/week, or just run ata a hrt dosage of lets say 125mg/week?

500 would be fine.. wouldnt really make a lick of difference via a trt dosage imo results would be almost identical depending on the persons sensitivity to estrogen/aromitization but as for REAL gains.. i see those definetly commin from the dht/nor combo where test will primarly and ONLY suffice for weiner function/proper physiological functions

**moush** · 08-03-2007, 02:14 PM

nice...well i got my diet down, been training for 5 years hard...i think ive got pretty good genes (my transformation is in the members pic forum).

im so excited to get this started!!

**taiboxa** · 08-03-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

500 would be fine.. wouldnt really make a lick of difference via a trt dosage imo results would be almost identical depending on the persons sensitivity to estrogen/aromitization but as for REAL gains.. i see those definetly commin from the dht/nor combo where test will primarly and ONLY suffice for weiner function/proper physiological functions

i just reread that.. i seroiusly think im clinically retarded as my grammer is sucking lately.. you think since my grammer sucks it would IMPROVE when the doc gives me narcotics.. but.. it doesnt anyways ima go play w/ a flashlight or something.