Lump Removal - opinions needed!

[LAGMuXle]

Hey Guys,

It has been a long time since I've posted here. I am seeking some much needed advice.

About 8-10 months ago I had what I thought was an abcess develop on my right glute from a tren injection. It wasn't red, but developed a lumpy area that seemed to be inflamed and bothersome visually. There was no pain or irritation, and it wasn't red so I gave it some time thinking it would go down. It continued to develop into a lump approximately the size of a baseball "stretched" into an oval ball shape approximately 4" long.

I visited a doctor within one month of noticing it had originally developed, and they perscribed me anti biotics and prednizone to see if it would go down. The prednizone helped, but after discontinuing the perscription the lump returned to its original size.

Returned to the doctor again, and they cut part of it out. The doctor decided that the lump developed due to oil from the injection that had remained between the skin and muscle, and had a bad reaction to fatty tissue. I was perscribed anti biotics and prednizone again to see if it would go away again.

Same routine, after a month or so of antibiotics and prednizone; it returned to it's original size. The lump was still not red, didn't hurt, it was purely just visually discomforting.

I just visited the doctor again today. This time it was a plastic surgery office. The doctor is suggesting that I go into OR at our local hospital for sedation, and have him surgically remove the entire area. Sounds easy; but there are a few risks. 1. The lump may "sink" in, and leave an area that is just as ugly as it is now, only reversed. 2. The lump may just return. 3. The surgery may be "a lump for a scar" as in - the scar may appear just as bad as the lump, etc. 4. The lump could require "digging" out; it might have caused a scar tissue film surrounding it - this would need to be removed to create a "fresh wound" as to allow for healing.

What do you guys think I should do? I'm stuck. It's a procedure that is going to cost me somewhere between $3-5,000 and of course, I don't have medical insurance at this time.

I never thought an injection would have caused so many problems. I am planning on getting a second opinion... but should I consider being submitted to the OR? Or try to find a doctor that could remove it in a local office? .......

Any doctors on the board who have experience with similar situations? Or anyone else had a similar experience?

Thank you for your time, and any opinions.

Mux

[magic32]

These occasionally occur in areas lower than the inject site (due to gravity), and can sometimes be drained. Do you know if it is fluid filled?

[hershbanger]

i know where ur coming from man... i had the same thing itt was a big ass lump like i could feel it when i sat down... be straight up with the doc bout the juice they cant do anything.. an they perscirbed me two anitbotices one that i couldnt go out in the sun and iff i was out there long i got a weird white red rash alll over my body and some kind of perscribed benerdril and they gave me a shot in the arm that complelty ****ed me up i didnt kno where i was and was half asleeep like a zombie for 5 hours and it went away.

[LAGMuXle]

Wow. Interesting on the second reply... haven't heard of that kind of combined treatment...

I've told them it was from AAS.

They used a ultrasound on it; and he seems to think it is a solid mass rather than fluid filled.. but if I'm lucky it would be fluid.

Any other ideas guys?

Thanks so far!

[JackBauer]

just out of curiosity what size pins where you using?

[LAGMuXle]

25g; although I think needle size is irrelevant to what developed.

[PEWN]

25g; although I think needle size is irrelevant to what developed.

thts is relevant... you shot in the glute with a 25 gauge prob 1 inch ... might have not got in the muscle.... might have a abcess... i would go see a doctor... and next time inject with a 23g 1 and half inch needle...

[LAGMuXle]

I've already seen a doctor. I'm past that point, read my first post please. I'm in the position to either be operated on, or according to the last doc I saw - leave it.... but the pins I used were 25g 1.5".

I agree that it is due to a subcutaneous injection, and the oil had a reaction with the fatty tissue between muscle and skin. The reaction enlarged to this oblong lump, and it is not neccesarily infected - just a reaction between the fatty tissue and oils in the gear I used.

As I mentioned - it is visually discomforting, and plays a heck of a head game with me. I'm definately leaning towards having it removed (even if it does replace with a scar from surgery) - I just want to get some opinions on procedures, etc. and also see if it's really neccesary to be completely sedated for something like this. I am going to get a second opinion in a week or two (as soon as work allows me a day to schedule an appointment).

[JackBauer]

well that sucks bro, im sorry that happened... i wonder how common it is actually.... best of luck

[magic32]

Lag,
Is the lump directly over the inject, or did it move down?
And is it going down at all?

[ZiOh6]

A dude I know actually had his friend stick a needle in his ass right into the lump and draw it out. If you remember how deep you went, I would highly recommend you give it a try. What do you have to lose? Keep us updated..

[Amorphic]

A dude I know actually had his friend stick a needle in his ass right into the lump and draw it out. If you remember how deep you went, I would highly recommend you give it a try. What do you have to lose? Keep us updated..

I can't say thats a very good idea. The lump is most likely not full of fluid as the other posts suggest. Getting a friend to just jab a 4" abcess just doesn't seem too bright to me.

[ecto9]

Hey Lag thanks alot for posting this. I was thinking of gettin smaller pins for glute injects, but after reading this I'm going with the standard 1.5" 23guage

[ZiOh6]

I can't say thats a very good idea. The lump is most likely not full of fluid as the other posts suggest. Getting a friend to just jab a 4" abcess just doesn't seem too bright to me.

I didnt think so either, but it worked.

[JackBauer]

dont you think an MD would think of that?

[thunderin]

Injection rotation can prevent this problem from ever developing.

I can hit 3 different spots on each quad and 3 different spot of the sides of my glutes. That gives me a total of 12 injection sites, not to mention shoulders and lats.

[LAGMuXle]

Lag,
Is the lump directly over the inject, or did it move down?
And is it going down at all?

Magic-

The lump is in the same area.. I would say it starts at the injection site, and the shape determines an area to the right and below the injection site. - It hasn't seemed to move at all since it developed.