Cycle Thoughts Please Experts

[streetyfatb]

Hi,

I am about to start my 5th cycle. I am currently wei***ng 217lb and my height is 5"8. My bodyfat is about 15% im guessing since my top abs are coming through. I plan to use Muscletechs: Nitrotech, Celltech, Anator and EAS Myoplex deluxe during the cycle. Here is my cycle, it is important to note that the aim of this cycle is to max lean gains, but mainly cut fat.

Week 1 - 8 Test Prop @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Tren Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 50mg ED
Week 3 - 10 HCG @ 500iu EW
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 1 - 12 IGF L3 @ 20mcg PWO (each muscle ie 40mcg, 20mcg in each bicep)
Week 8 - 10 Clomid @ Tapper off dose (start high finish low)
Week 1 - 8 Clen @ 80 - 120mcg ED (2 weeks on 2 weeks off cycle)

Are there any recommendations or changes you would make. Is there anything you would add in?

Many Thanks

[football2007]

I see no points of those supplements during cycle; use them during PCT

IGF for 12 weeks? I know its low dose, but I would not recommend that at all. Use IGF for 4-5 weeks during PCT at 60mcg (ish) PWO

Clomid has its place, but I don't like it with high doses. Low dose clomid with another SERM, be it Nolva or toremifene, would be fine...along with Aromasin would make a great PCT. So..


Week 1 - 8 Test Prop @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Tren Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 50mg ED
Week 3 - 8 HCG @ 500iu EW (250iu x2)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 8-12 IGF L3 @ 60mcg PWO
Week 8-12 Clomid 25-50mg
Week 8-12 Nolva 20mg ED
Week 8-12 Aromasin 25mg EOD
Also, I'm not a big fan of clen . It doesn't work well with me, but it may be fine with you. You can add those supps in PCT here as well.

[streetyfatb]

I am stuggling to get anavar at a reasonable price is there anything else worth adding in as a substitute?

[streetyfatb]

perphaps 90mg day winni tabs?

[Kratos]

90 mg for 8 weeks too long

[Njord]

I see no points of those supplements during cycle; use them during PCT

IGF for 12 weeks? I know its low dose, but I would not recommend that at all. Use IGF for 4-5 weeks during PCT at 60mcg (ish) PWO

Clomid has its place, but I don't like it with high doses. Low dose clomid with another SERM, be it Nolva or toremifene, would be fine...along with Aromasin would make a great PCT. So..


Week 1 - 8 Test Prop @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Tren Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 50mg ED
Week 3 - 8 HCG @ 500iu EW (250iu x2)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 8-12 IGF L3 @ 60mcg PWO
Week 8-12 Clomid 25-50mg
Week 8-12 Nolva 20mg ED
Week 8-12 Aromasin 25mg EOD
Also, I'm not a big fan of clen. It doesn't work well with me, but it may be fine with you. You can add those supps in PCT here as well.

I like this one. If you want to run the winny do week 3-8 100mg ed

[streetyfatb]

what would you recommend then?

[streetyfatb]

I am also thinking of changing test prop test cyp @ 250mg every 4th day to save the amount injected?? What you think

[Njord]

I wouldn't. Your doing a short cycle, stick to the short esters.

[streetyfatb]

okay mate that cycle seem pretty solid? hope it is going to show great results!

[texasmk4]

i agree with njord

[BG]

I like this one. If you want to run the winny do week 3-8 100mg ed

Hmmm have you asked him about getting bloodwork. Your very quick to throw out winny at 100mgs but mixed with tren you have 2 pretty toxic compounds. Also I think a milder dose of winny would be just as effective with out as much stress on the body. Also for a short cycle no need for hcg , if anything save it for pct. As far as dosages in general seem pretty high, he seems to be reling on AS for all his gains, at 15% bf and "top two abs are just starting to come through" he should look at his diet instead of upping dosages.

[BG]

I like this one. If you want to run the winny do week 3-8 100mg ed

Also fill out you personal info if your going to run around making members cycles so we can see your cycle experinence.

[streetyfatb]

well my mate also said using winni you must really have body fat at 10% or under. I hope to achieve perhaps around 10% body fat (thanks to clen ) and expect to gain a few pounds. Would you definately have anavar over winni then? I have sorted my diet and my bf is dropping quiet well, my boss also a bodybuilder comment how my stomach has tightened, still not perfect but its a start. I have cleaned up my diet and have actually gained a few pounds and still lost fat with no illegal substances.

Thank you for you input it is much appricated.

[football2007]

Thanks to clen ?

You seem to be relying on drugs to get lean. This is foolish, you should concentrate on your diet and cardio and manipulating your training. No drug will get you around 10% if your diet is poor.

[Njord]

Also fill out you personal info if your going to run around making members cycles so we can see your cycle experinence.

OK, I updated my profile with cycle experience et al. I didn't see your cycle experience in your profile though

[BG]

OK, I updated my profile with cycle experience et al. I didn't see your cycle experience in your profile though

I took them out because of current LE problem, not sure if they will come after board staff next.