Two Choices for a First Cycle

[avizzle]

So, I've been doing research for a while and now I think its time for a post with some actual body to it.
Stats:
Age-24
Height-6ft
Weight-200 lbs.
BF%- 15
Diet- Pretty clean bulk. Up at about 3,500 to 4,000 cals. a day. 40/40/20 split most of the time.
Training- For about the past ten years done good work. Real serious for about the past four or so.
Cycle experience- None
Goals- I hope to get up to a solid 225 maybe a little more. Strength is more the goal here but looking nice is good too.
What I'm thinking of doing here because it's my first cycle is:
Anavar 50mg ED 8 weeks
Test Prop. 50 mg EOD weeks 8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11
I'm thinking of doing this during the early fall maybe September and then around New Year's time graduating to the cycle below.


Week Equipose Sustanon 250 Dianabol
1 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW 35 mg OED
2 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW 35 mg OED
3 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW 35 mg OED
4 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW 35 mg OED
5 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
6 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
7 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
8 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
9 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
10 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
11 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW
12 500 mg OEW 500 mg OEW

PCT+Clen.

Week Clomid Nolvadex Exemestane
1 105 mg 20 mg 25 mg
2 105 mg 20 mg 25 mg
3 70 mg 20 mg 25 mg
4 35 mg 20 mg 25 mg
5 20 mg 20 mg 20 mg

Day Clenbuterol
1-4 20 mcg
5-8 40 mcg
9-12 60 mcg
13-16 80 mcg
17-20 60 mcg
21-24 40 mcg
25-28 20 mcg

Started 2 weeks after the last injection.

I'm wondering whether the first cycle PCT is too little and if the second one is overkill. I know that sounds sacrilegious but that's why I'm asking you guys. I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

[magic32]

Instead, effect a cycle and pct that are standardized, not homemade!

[got fina?]

How bout this for a first cycle my friend?
Cyp. 600mg/week for 12 weeks. Wait a month and see blood if test not back yet a lil clomid.
I think your making it to complicated to early on...
Read, read, read....
I gained 35 lbs on my first cycle of 100mg/week of enenthate. Diet is key not juice..
Good luck

[avizzle]

Thanks so much. That's exactly what I needed to hear. In regards to any Test cycle what do you think about frontloading it with dbol?

[PEWN]

dbol is a good starter to boost your cycle... gives it a good jumpstart..

[buffgator]

first cycle needs to be kept simple. Prop I would highly recomend not taking your first cycle. I would recommend 250-500 mg per week of test e, with proper pct.

[PEWN]

first cycle needs to be kept simple. Prop I would highly recomend not taking your first cycle. I would recommend 250-500 mg per week of test e, with proper pct.

i think he said cyp not prop... but yea def 250-500 mg per week and proper pct would be good....

[Amorphic]

First cycle, keep it simple

weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg/ed
weeks 1-12 500mg/w test e

blamo, that is it. simple. effective. unbeatable.

[avizzle]

Thanks. That's why you guys rocks. Although about my more complex cycle, what where the issues there?

[holden]

I gained 35 lbs on my first cycle of 100mg/week of enenthate.
Good luck

Holy farking shiznay.. thats some crazy gains.. what were you eating? people?

[nyjetsfan86]

How bout this for a first cycle my friend?
Cyp. 600mg/week for 12 weeks. Wait a month and see blood if test not back yet a lil clomid.
I think your making it to complicated to early on...
Read, read, read....
I gained 35 lbs on my first cycle of 100mg/week of enenthate. Diet is key not juice..
Good luck

i would like to know what your diet was like

[WelshWarrior]

first cycle needs to be kept simple. Prop I would highly recomend not taking your first cycle. I would recommend 250-500 mg per week of test e, with proper pct.

Agreed.

Start low and build up - you'll be glad you did it further down the line and it won't really limit the gains from your first cycle.

Both seem a little too complicated for a 1st one. I know it gets repetitive, but I'd do one of the cycles in the educational threads.

[RBD85]

How bout this for a first cycle my friend?
Cyp. 600mg/week for 12 weeks. Wait a month and see blood if test not back yet a lil clomid.
I think your making it to complicated to early on...
Read, read, read....
I gained 35 lbs on my first cycle of 100mg/week of enenthate. Diet is key not juice..
Good luck

100mg/week of test for a cycle? so what did you run one 10ml bottle of test for 25 weeks?