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08-02-2007, 10:07 AM #1Junior Member
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Planning out a 1st Cycle - Test E but with what else?
OK I have been researching a good first cycle and the only thing I am sure of is Test E and Nolva are staples for a 1st Cycle.
I have been reading about Proviron and it looks like a great thing to add to a 1st Cycle. The article mentions how it is very synergistic with Test E and naturally prevents Gyno. So here is what I am thinking of so far:
Test E - injectable - 400-600 mg/week, injecting twice a week
Proviron - oral - ??? the amount, have no idea
Nolvadex - oral - 40mg, thinking of starting it mid cycle instead of end of cycle to be safe
Does this sound good? Should I add in something more for the PCT?
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08-02-2007, 10:17 AM #2Associate Member
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being ur first cycle. i wud drop the proviron . try not to overthink things out. dats my disease. stick with the test e at 500 mgs for 12 weeks divided into 2 shots and have ur pct ready too. nolva on hand in case of nipple sensitivity.. lotz of luk
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08-02-2007, 11:03 AM #3
Good god man..I swear it never ends.
By all means don't hesitate to give us your stats and goals. /sarcasm
LMAO @ someone giving advice when in fact they don't know stats or what the thread starters goals are etc...
What's so hard about simply typing out
I am 6'0 and 200lbs, looking to put on some mass/looking to cut up. This is my first cycle and so far I think I will use Test E, but I'm wondering if (name a few compounds) will work best for my first run?
At least that would show you did read something.Last edited by Panzerfaust; 08-02-2007 at 11:06 AM.
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08-02-2007, 11:04 AM #4
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08-02-2007, 11:06 AM #5
I usually recommend only one compound for a first cycle, but I think Proviron might not be a bad addition. It has anti-estrogenic properties and supposedly increases the effect of other androgenics. If you decide to run it do it @ 50mg ED.
Your pct needs work. Go to the pct forum and read up.
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08-02-2007, 11:08 AM #6Originally Posted by nyjetsfan86
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08-02-2007, 11:10 AM #7
Oh, and what are your stats/goals
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08-02-2007, 11:10 AM #8
i wasnt telling him how much to do i was saying what i was doing, and those 3 are the most common stacked with test
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Originally Posted by muriloninja
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08-02-2007, 11:13 AM #10
I'm sorry but advising someone to possibly take Tren on their first cycle is downright ****ing nuts.
That compound is not for a newb.***No source checks!!!***
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08-02-2007, 11:14 AM #11
didnt even see that you wanted to get mass and cut up, id suggest stackin the test e with eq, winny of var
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08-02-2007, 11:15 AM #12
i wasnt suggesting he take tren , i should have worded it differently
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08-02-2007, 12:05 PM #13Junior Member
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Sorry about that, I forgot I just posted my stats in another post, but not this one.
5'9 169 looking to get big but look cut more than anything else, been lifting for 2+ years
Is the Proviron a waste? I dont know if it will make me bigger, but the synergistic effects and anti-estrogen ability makes me think it is worth it.
I know for sure I am gonna do Test E. Is 400 too low or just right?
Thanks in advance
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08-02-2007, 12:32 PM #14Originally Posted by nyjetsfan86
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08-02-2007, 02:14 PM #15
my bad i listed what i was doing and then listed what the 3 most common stacked with test e but i should have advised not doing tren for a 1st cycle
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08-02-2007, 02:26 PM #16
I saw your picks not bad. It looks as if you could cut and bulk up a liitle more with a intense diet and alot of protien withn a vigorous work out schedule. I dont hink that you are ready but that is just my opinion. You could ressearch clen or albuteral and run a cycle of that if you want to be cut. They both will definetly make you cut. I get mine from AR-R . For bulking hit the gym and protien with a kick butt diet. If you think you are ready to use which is your call good luck and i wish the best to you. Just remember to resaerch first. I just ran test e for my first time ever. I jump statred it with dbol . If you are going to run a cycle dont forget to have your pct ready.
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08-02-2007, 02:41 PM #17Junior Member
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Thanks for all the responses. I know I can probably gain a little more naturally, but I'm ready for a straight boost. I'll keep researching more things to stack with Test E
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08-02-2007, 03:06 PM #18
for your first time i wouldn't stack to much test e by itself is a great start and if you want to jump start to see resluts faster you can add dbol .
good luck bro
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08-02-2007, 05:20 PM #19Associate Member
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Originally Posted by muriloninja
I've seen other people say that also. Why is tren so recommended against for a non experienced cycler?
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