First Timer, Need Advice!

[dbyount]

Hey everyone.

Recently picked up a few things for my first stack.

S-Drol, Phera-Plex, Rampage, and Rebound XT (for post cycle obviously).

Anyways, I am about 5'9 220 lbs. Athletic, but pretty high BF % levels.

I was told to just do S-Drol for gains and I wouldnt gain anymore weight if I diet correctly. I would like to go crazy with my gains by adding the Phera-Plex I have to the S-Drol and rampage, but I don't want to gain any more. Especially if that mass is fat.

Should I sell the Phera-Plex and stick with the S-Drol and Rampage, or is there some way to take all of it without gaining a whole lot of weight.


After this I am planning on cutting up, but would like my gains to increase dramatically before I do.


Just like I said. If I gain 10 lbs, I dont much care. I just dont want to be fatter than I already am with this stuff.


Any advice is appreciated,


Thanks!

Dave

[ottomaddox]

How old are you? What's your history with otc steroids? What do you think your body fat is? How long have you been training? What's your diet like?
Just a few questions to get to know you a little better. If you plan on staying here, you should fill out your public profile. That way we wouldn't have to go over the basics first.
Peace,
CR

[PEWN]

lets here about what you are trying to accomplish to...

[Panzerfaust]

Might as well dump that shit in the trash. Its a waste of time IMO. If you are gonna do a "cycle", then do one worth while.

[dbyount]

Just turned 18. Lifting for about 3 years. Only sport lately is golf, so Im not doing it for that. I just do this for fun, and to get in good shape. My goal is to stay big-ish 185-200 lbs, but have a low bodyfat % and still be able to lift a ton. My diet isnt great as of now, but it is getting better. I will eat however I need to with whatever stack I decide on. And will probably need advice on diet as well. How much, and what kind of food Im eating. And how many times a day to eat, etc.. Already have my Post Cycle stuff. Rebound XT, Liver Formula, Fish Oil, and Novedex. The biggest answer Im looking for right now is, if I do both (S-drol/Phera-Plex) along with the Rampage (energy, but also a fat burner) as well as a cardio routine on days M-F after I work out, how much weight will I gain? And if it is a ton, will I appear fatter, or does it look like a total muscle gain?


If its more convenient for you, we can talk on AIM or through email.

Thanks!

[Big]

At 18 you shouldn't use either in my opinion. Read up in the diet forum and I'll bet your diet is way off, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to accomplish what you state your goals are through diet and training alone. The theory "I will eat however I need to with whatever stack I decide on" is definitely the wrong way to go about it. Eat right first, consistently, and capitalize on your natural potential.

[RBD85]

you need to reconsider your young and that stuff is alot harsher than you think just read up on it. If your going to do it anyways I would strongly suggest an anavar only cycle. Your gains will be better and is alot safer. Read up on it, you will thank me later.

[nyjetsfan86]

^^ i agree you shouldnt be using either but you have already bought it so that means you are most likely going to take it regardless of what we say so ill help you out. ive taken both phera plex and superdrol. superdrol s going to make you bigger and stronger than pp and the gaines will be alot cleaner. so if you want to appear "less fat" go with superdrol. for your first time theres no need to stack both. and you said you have low bodyfat already why take the rampage? and superdrol will help you drop body fat as well. as far as cardio goes m-f s too much if youre looking to bulk. liver support and fish oil is not enough for support supps. you need some red yeast rice, hawthorn, and some coq10 as well. and for my last critique, your pct sux drop the rebound and pick up some real stuff like clomid and maybe some liquidex go to ar-r and pick it up from lion

[ottomaddox]

You will have a better chance if you visit the diet forum and get that figured out first before you go experimenting with oral steroids. The higher your body fat percentage, the higher the risk you run of having estrogen related side effects. Don't be in a rush to jump on the chemical band wagon, you can make "steroid" like gains just by fine tuning your diet and exercise regiment. You have tons of natural testosterone floating around in that bloodstream of your. Use it!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace,
CR

ImaGetBiggerThe theory "I will eat however I need to with whatever stack I decide on" is definitely the wrong way to go about it..

dbyountHe said, "Anyways, I am about 5'9 220 lbs. Athletic, but pretty high BF % levels.

nyjetsfan86and you said you have low bodyfat already why take the rampage?

[Amorphic]

Might as well dump that shit in the trash. Its a waste of time IMO. If you are gonna do a "cycle", then do one worth while.

Straight up, there is your answer, otc 'steroids' are garbage, and not worth the time.

[nyjetsfan86]

Straight up, there is your answer, otc 'steroids' are garbage, and not worth the time.

i happen to disagree wiht you on this one, i took oxodrol-12 for 4 weeks with a very clean diet and put on 16 solid lbs

[ottomaddox]

Sarcasm right?

Straight up, there is your answer, otc 'steroids' are garbage, and not worth the time.

[Amorphic]

Sarcasm right?

No dude, I don't believe they are worth the time or money. If i was planning a cycle it would be the real deal. OTC is just marketed for more than it is, not to mention you dont really know what you're putting in your body besides a bunch of hyped up chemicals.

To each their own, if you use it and like it, I'm glad, I just wont