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    Less sides on a Multi-Estered Testosterone?

    I know this seems a little wierd, but there are some out there who get:

    - Less water
    - Better gains
    - Less estrogenic sides
    - Less acne
    - Faster kick in time
    - No 'Test Flu'

    Anyone swear by Sust or Omna's over Enantahte, Cypionate , Suspension or Propionate ?

    Personal experiences please.

    Thanks.
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    less water- not much long esters to produce enough as cyp or enth.
    better gains- most likely faster because of prop, but not better.
    less estro- again, like with less water
    less acne- idk
    faster kick in- PROP
    no test flu- BS doesnt matter, test is test so flu is flu

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    Quote Originally Posted by androbolic_09
    less water- not much long esters to produce enough as cyp or enth.
    better gains- most likely faster because of prop, but not better.
    less estro- again, like with less water
    less acne- idk
    faster kick in- PROP
    no test flu- BS doesnt matter, test is test so flu is flu
    I'm not looking for answers, I'm looking for personal experience.

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    Swifto I can provide my input from my first and only cycle. I ran 500mg Test E /Deca for 6 weeks and added 40mg of halo for the last 4. I have about a week left.

    When I started my cycle I was running arimidex because I wasn't sure how my body would respond to that much test but after getting very little acne and little to no water retention I decided to stop the AI because I wanted to see what a tad more estrogen could do for me in terms of gains.

    I haven't taken an AI in almost 5 weeks now and I had little to no change in acne or water retention. Since starting the halo I got quite a bit of acne but I can't do shit about that since it doesn't armomatize anyways.

    I've often wondered what shorter esters would do to me but from this cycle I've had very very minimal sides. I did get a tad more emotional after stopping the AI but other than that nada. No gyno or nipple soreness either.

    And, I've been running 1000iu of HCG for the past 3 weeks and will up that to 2k throughout pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serotonin
    Swifto I can provide my input from my first and only cycle. I ran 500mg Test E /Deca for 6 weeks and added 40mg of halo for the last 4. I have about a week left.

    When I started my cycle I was running arimidex because I wasn't sure how my body would respond to that much test but after getting very little acne and little to no water retention I decided to stop the AI because I wanted to see what a tad more estrogen could do for me in terms of gains.

    I haven't taken an AI in almost 5 weeks now and I had little to no change in acne or water retention. Since starting the halo I got quite a bit of acne but I can't do shit about that since it doesn't armomatize anyways.

    I've often wondered what shorter esters would do to me but from this cycle I've had very very minimal sides. I did get a tad more emotional after stopping the AI but other than that nada. No gyno or nipple soreness either.

    And, I've been running 1000iu of HCG for the past 3 weeks and will up that to 2k throughout pct.

    *edit* my avatar pic is only 3 days old ...
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    I know this seems a little wierd, but there are some out there who get:

    - Less water
    - Better gains
    - Less estrogenic sides
    - Less acne
    - Faster kick in time
    - No 'Test Flu'

    Anyone swear by Sust or Omna's over Enantahte, Cypionate , Suspension or Propionate ?

    Personal experiences please.

    Thanks.
    I've done 3 cycles with sust as a base (org and karachi) and 2 with enanthate as a base. I've found I get more sides with sust, but only slightly so - in particular a lil test flu (gets less and less with each cycle) and slightly more spots.

    I feel less water with sust, slightly quicker kick in and I prefer the more regular jabs.

    That said, given the choice I'd go with enanth cos 1 bacne spot is too many.

    Can't comment on prop or suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshWarrior
    I've done 3 cycles with sust as a base (org and karachi) and 2 with enanthate as a base. I've found I get more sides with sust, but only slightly so - in particular a lil test flu (gets less and less with each cycle) and slightly more spots.

    I feel less water with sust, slightly quicker kick in and I prefer the more regular jabs.

    That said, given the choice I'd go with enanth cos 1 bacne spot is too many.

    Can't comment on prop or suspension.
    Exactly what I'm looking for.

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    I will take sust over test e any day! So much sweeter gains and results, sust has been the drug I have done more than anything else, hands down. I have tried and tried to like test e, and c. I cant though. They just dont give the gains that sust does. I have found from my own personal experiances that shorter esters work better for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator
    I will take sust over test e any day! So much sweeter gains and results, sust has been the drug I have done more than anything else, hands down. I have tried and tried to like test e, and c. I cant though. They just dont give the gains that sust does. I have found from my own personal experiances that shorter esters work better for me.
    Yeah, I can't wait to try sust in cycle 2!

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