Newbie Cycle-Please Critique

[Foxtrot]

I'm wanting to do a cycle soon and I've been talking to alot of people for advice and everyone seems to have a different opinion about what I should do. I did a cycle of deca about three years ago knowing nothing about what I was doing. I put on some size but mostly water. But since I have taken my training and diet to another level. I've been doing alot of research and I think I'm ready to try another cycle. I'm 22 years old 5'11'' and 190 pounds at about 10% bf. I feel like my diet and training are on point and I just tired of putting in all the work for slow results. I've used the Harris-elliot to get my exact numbers. I just want to get some of you guys opinions on my cycle. Any advice would be helpful.


Here is the cycle I was looking at doing:
Kickstarting with D-bol 20-25mg for 4 wks
Test c 10 wks 200-250 Mon and Thurs
Liquidex through cycle and Tamox Pct
I was thinking about adding 200-300mg of deca into the mix.

[nyjetsfan86]

what are your goals?

[Foxtrot]

I'm wanting to put on some good size in the fall and winter. I'm planing to compete in the spring. I want to do a cycle that I could keep some solid gains. With the deca i lost alot of size when i came off due to the fact i was holding so much water.

[SMAN12b]

a little young.....5'11" and only 190 You could put on a few more pounds NATURALLY by eating correctly, but your not far off

Your cycle looks OK since you used deca before....what is your PCT??

[Foxtrot]

I could put on some weight very quickly but the thing is its not gonna be lean gains. I just came down from around 205 getting ready for the the cycle so i don't look like a fat ass when i start to hold water. I Kept most of my size but lost alot of bf. I need advice on the pct but, i was gonna start about two weeks after my last injection and use tamox and possibly liquidex but I'm not sure how the dosages wil be.

[2deizel]

i think the test is a little low. imo this is what i would do

test 500mgs a week
deca300-400mgs a week or you could leave the deca out of the cycle.
40mgs d-bol ed

[Big]

I think he was saying test 200 or 250 Mon and Thurs, so he's shooting for 400-500/wk

[Foxtrot]

yeah 400-500/wk

[Merc..]

i think the test is a little low. imo this is what i would do

test 500mgs a week
deca300-400mgs a week or you could leave the deca out of the cycle.
40mgs d-bol ed

Yea I thought dbol dose
is kinda low..

Merc

[PEWN]

i think a test only at 500mg a week for 10 week cycle would be all he needs...

[Foxtrot]

i think a test only at 500mg a week for 10 week cycle would be all he needs...

you think i'll get some some quality gains from test by itself?

[Merc..]

i think a test only at 500mg a week for 10 week cycle would be all he needs...

I agree it would suffice . I mean why use compounds that may be unessary. I mean you see you guys start with

wk 1-12 cyp 500/wk
wk 1-10 deca 400/wk
wk 1-4 dbol 40 ED

I see this alot as a first cycle than on the 2nd cycle the used so many compounds the first time around they think they needs alot more and end up running a gram of test per wk ( by 2nd or 3rd cycle insane IMO) . I say use compounds slowly in the begin and see how your body reacts to each different compound than down the road you can start stacking . Just my opinion here though.

Merc

[Foxtrot]

someone suggested primobolan 200mg/wk and starting at wk 6 add 30 mg/wk of anavar adding 10 mg every wk. up until wk. 10 he said this wouldn't give crazy gains but they would be solid. What do you guys think of this?

[Sir Lifts-a-lot]

I actually think it is a solid stack... His receptors are still pretty fresh even though he did a cycle of deca about 3 years ago. This will allow him to get great results (if diet/rest/training are in check) from a minimal amount of gear. I would keep the deca out personally... Save that for a future cycle with some test e or somthing along those lines.