F'n exhausted, all the time

[The Punnisher]

I'm in week 2 of a D/bol-Test cycle and man do I feel like a slug. I'm taking 30mgs of Dbol (10mgs 3 times a day) for 4 weeks and Testanon 250 at 500mgs a week for 10 weeks.
I feel exhausted all the time. I can probably sleep 20 hours out of a day and have no problem sleeping the same the next day. Even as I type this I feel like laying down on the couch and crashing out even though I just woke up a couple hours ago from a 9 hour sleep. Is this normal?

I'm also taking VitE @ 800 IU, Milk Thistle @ 3000 mgs, Saw Palmetto @ 2000 mgs, Flaxseed Oil @ 2000 mgs, VitB Complex and a Multi.

[Amorphic]

Can you give us stats? Age, bf%, cycle experience, and an outline of your cycle and planned PCT? This info can help us out a lot in helping you.

[Merc..]

I'm in week 2 of a D/bol-Test cycle and man do I feel like a slug. I'm taking 30mgs of Dbol (10mgs 3 times a day) for 4 weeks and Testanon 250 at 500mgs a week for 10 weeks.
I feel exhausted all the time. I can probably sleep 20 hours out of a day and have no problem sleeping the same the next day. Even as I type this I feel like laying down on the couch and crashing out even though I just woke up a couple hours ago from a 9 hour sleep. Is this normal?

I'm also taking VitE @ 800 IU, Milk Thistle @ 3000 mgs, Saw Palmetto @ 2000 mgs, Flaxseed Oil @ 2000 mgs, VitB Complex and a Multi.

I have seen dbol cause lethargy so that's probably the culprit ..

Also what kinda of changes have you made to your diet?? Are you getting enough carbs ( if not this can be your problem).

Merc.

[bpm1]

I'm in week 2 of a D/bol-Test cycle and man do I feel like a slug. I'm taking 30mgs of Dbol (10mgs 3 times a day) for 4 weeks and Testanon 250 at 500mgs a week for 10 weeks.
I feel exhausted all the time. I can probably sleep 20 hours out of a day and have no problem sleeping the same the next day. Even as I type this I feel like laying down on the couch and crashing out even though I just woke up a couple hours ago from a 9 hour sleep. Is this normal?

I'm also taking VitE @ 800 IU, Milk Thistle @ 3000 mgs, Saw Palmetto @ 2000 mgs, Flaxseed Oil @ 2000 mgs, VitB Complex and a Multi.

i had this problem on my first cycle wich was test only(test cyp 500mg wk). i feel i dont do well with higher levels of test. anyway curious wat is ur bf at right now, be honest.

[roodogg]

throw in some ester vitamin c you can take up to a couple of grams a day. Also drink plenty of water 1-1.5 gallons per day

[tommik]

Also what kinda of changes have you made to your diet?? Are you getting enough carbs ( if not this can be your problem).

Merc.

or other way around... too much carbs = food coma

[The Punnisher]

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so short, but I was off to the gym when I typed that.
My cycle is as follows:
Week 1-4
30 mgs Dbol ED (3 10mg dosages)
Week 1-10
250 mgs of Testanon twice per week (500 mgs total)
Testanon is 110 mgs/ml Test Enth. 100 mgs/ml Test Cyp and 40 mgs/ml Test Prop. I started with Sun/Wed shots, week two Sat/Tues, Week three Fri/Mon and will continue back in that manner in effort to keep my levels stable.
I am going to start Liquidex at .25 mgs ED in week 4 to control Estrogen related sides and then 18 days post last shot I will begin PCT.
PCT will be Nolva and Liquidex with VitE, C, B, Flax, Fish and possibly Clen. I haven't made up my mind on that.

Stats:
28 years old, 5'9" 200 lbs. Last time I got checked I was 12% body fat. I'd bet I'm right around the same now, maybe 11% since I lost some size on the waist. My diet has been very clean, but perhaps very low in calories. I think that could be it now that I am thinking about it. I'm only taking in about 2500-3000 calories per day and even at that I've put on 9 pounds in the last two weeks (I was 191 pre cycle).

[bpm1]

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so short, but I was off to the gym when I typed that.
My cycle is as follows:
Week 1-4
30 mgs Dbol ED (3 10mg dosages)
Week 1-10
250 mgs of Testanon twice per week (500 mgs total)
Testanon is 110 mgs/ml Test Enth. 100 mgs/ml Test Cyp and 40 mgs/ml Test Prop. I started with Sun/Wed shots, week two Sat/Tues, Week three Fri/Mon and will continue back in that manner in effort to keep my levels stable.
I am going to start Liquidex at .25 mgs ED in week 4 to control Estrogen related sides and then 18 days post last shot I will begin PCT.
PCT will be Nolva and Liquidex with VitE, C, B, Flax, Fish and possibly Clen. I haven't made up my mind on that.

Stats:
28 years old, 5'9" 200 lbs. Last time I got checked I was 12% body fat. I'd bet I'm right around the same now, maybe 11% since I lost some size on the waist. My diet has been very clean, but perhaps very low in calories. I think that could be it now that I am thinking about it. I'm only taking in about 2500-3000 calories per day and even at that I've put on 9 pounds in the last two weeks (I was 191 pre cycle).

u might not do well with either the test or d-bol, no way to know if youve never run the test solo. like i said i was dead on my feet my first cycle which was only test @500mg wk

[10nispro]

Is lethargy a side effect or adverse reaction of Test.? I was planning on Test. e for first cycle @ 500mg/wk. May try lowering dose.

[(1*)]

your body may be wanting to grow due to the juice. this sometimes could cause chemicals in your body to make you drowzy... also i read that flax seed should only be taken just prior to bed time... dunno why but maybe that's got something to do with it.

[The Punnisher]

I only take the Flax at bedtime, so I don't think that's it. I think it might be the Dbol. I just don't remember this from my previous experiences with it. I don't want to get into a debate about running Test every cycle, but I have run Dbol without Test before. It was a long time ago and I just don't remember if I was this lethargic or not. It could also just be a change in my sleeping pattern. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. Either way, I'm just gonna keep up with it and see how it all works out.

[Kratos]

Strong coffee works wonders. Just be careful if you are on tren and it's a hot day, you can sweat your way though a pair of O.R. scrubs to the point someone asks you, "did you get sprayed by a hose or something?" Trust me it can happen.

[J*U*icEd]

definatly the d-bol.... happens to me when i take it.... dianabol is known for this side effect

[moto man]

I just went through the same thing...It was a struggle to stay awake and move around...I started feeling it about 3/4 through my cycle...Its gotten better since I've been off, but I had blood work done, because I thought something was seriously wrong... My cholesterol ratio was the worst the Dr. had ever heard of...He's been practising for over 20 years...I'm off and feel better, but its worth getting it checked out. I've only started researching the cholesterol issue tonight and I've read that orals will send you cholesterol through the roof...My numbers weren't that high, but the ratio of good to bad was 8x normal...He said the lethargy could be due to the cholesterol levels.

Just something to consider.

[Merc..]

Lets get everyone on the same page on this..

usually tiredness while on cycle is linked to diet/training and not getting enough sleep...( there are tons of other factors also )

Now becoming lethargic is a very common thing that happens to alot of people using dbol.. ( I said this in my other post in this thread)

Ok now test making you tired ????

Yes it can be a contributing factor .. Testosterone lowers t-3 and can make you feel tired because of this ... Lowered t-3 can also raise prolaction

Like I said in the other post its probably the dbol and diet causing it...

Also try to take your mind off of it..
The more you think about something the wrose you can make it.. I know it is hard when your tired as hell but just try your best to keep you mind off of it.. As I feel it will help you...

Merc.

[moto man]

We're not on the same page...

#1 I wasn't on dbol
#2 I've run several cycles before with similar or higher doses of test...never have I felt that exhausted...all the time. I would be awake laying in bed and not have the energy to get up...Almost similar to having a really bad flu.

[Merc..]

We're not on the same page...

#1 I wasn't on dbol
#2 I've run several cycles before with similar or higher doses of test...never have I felt that exhausted...all the time. I would be awake laying in bed and not have the energy to get up...Almost similar to having a really bad flu.

Ok smart ass !!

I was not responding to you but rather the original poster who is on dbol .. No need for your shitty attitude ..

Sounds like you where experiencing some sort of test flu .. Keep in mind Test flu is not caused by the flu virus. but rather A rapid spike in testosterone levels especially in the case of using high doses of short estered compounds. They cause the body to treat all of this testosterone, ( or really whatever your using tren ,deca ) in the blood steam as a foreign body ..

Merc.

[moto man]

LOL...Wasn't really meaning to come across quite like that...I just didn't feel we could lump it all together...No offense intended, but I was being a it of a smart ass.

Your opinion is appreciated ,but I don't think we can address it with a "case closed" diagnosis. What your saying could very well be exactly correct, but it may not be too.

Ya feel me..lol

[Merc..]

LOL...Wasn't really meaning to come across quite like that...I just didn't feel we could lump it all together...No offense intended, but I was being a it of a smart ass.

Your opinion is appreciated ,but I don't think we can address it with a "case closed" diagnosis. What your saying could very well be exactly correct, but it may not be too.

Ya feel me..lol

I got ya.... No worries !!

just dont let it happen again just kidding...


Merc.

[The Punnisher]

Thanx for all the input guys, I am starting to think it's the D-bol also. I sleep like a champ, like 8-10 hours a day. It's really kind of getting in the way of everything else....
I have to fight myself out of bed and then once I get to the gym, I feel like a million bucks for the rest of the day. But until I get there, I feel like I haven't slept in days.
I'm gonna try to alter my diet a little bit until the D-bol is done. I only have another two weeks on it, so I should be ok. I cut pretty much all my sugars out of my diet so I'm hoping by adding a little bit back in, I can get a little more energy pre workout. Make any sense?

[pwrlftr2]

Hey buddy I would like to figure that one out too. I never take Dbol just test prop and anavar. Feel like crap all the time I'm on every time. I get the hot flashes and night sweats like crazy and feel like I want to lay down and sleep all the time. My diet and supplements are top notch so I think it's the test. I'm 5'10", 205 with about 11% bodyfat. My strength is fine but I just feel tired all the time. Blood work just taken and it was fine so it beats me. I guarantee you that after I come off and complete PCT I'll have twice the energy I have now.

Anyway, just to let you know you're not the only one with these symptoms.

[jon77]

Sounds like a diet/water intake problem to me. I've took d-bol for 4 weeks and it did not affect me the way you are describing. Then again, it just might not be the problem. IMO Try taking all of your d-bol 2-3 hrs b4 your workouts. Just a suggestion, so no need to be flamed for telling you this. Assuming your taking your d-bol three x a day, 4,5, maybe 6 hrs apart, your levels are all over the place. My experience when taking it 2-3 hrs b4 my workout: levels are at peak,strenght is through the roof,satisfied when leaving gym that I went in and gave 110% in my workout for that day. Last thing, water is very important when taking this compound. I recommend 2-3 gallons if not more ED.